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post #11 of 32 Old 12-14-2018, 03:42 PM
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...and it is....100%.........normal.

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A Amsoil 2 micron bypass filter will keep your oil from turning black.
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A Amsoil 2 micron bypass filter will keep your oil from turning black.
That's also false. I run 10 micron full flow fleet guard filters, plus an amsoil bypass. Egr is deleted. Still comes out black. Black Oil Immediately After Oil Change-screenshot_20181214-173105_gallery.jpeg

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It's the soot guys. It's going to get in the oil, just like it gets everywhere else there might be a small leak after combustion. Sorry, but that's just the way it is. If you get a filter with enough microns to filter out the soot, you'll also filter out the oil. An EGR delete does help keep it under control, but until you can stop all blow-by past the rings, your oil is going to get black.
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I thought ditching the EGR would keep the oil from turning black. No?
Nope, all the EGR does is recirculate the exhaust to make sure all the fuel gets burnt.

For fun, start your truck and open your oil filler cap, you'll see exhaust or what people call "blow by" coming out of the filler.
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i'm just gunna say, with my 6.0...
oil doesnt get black until almost 5k on the clock and still looks gold at 3k but this is after dong a LOT of oil changes and not being shy about changing early if i have a road trip planned or anything so...
but mostly yea its gunna be black

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Every diesel I have changed the oil in, Powerstroke, Cummins, or Duramax the oil turns black quickly, even on 7.3 and 5.9s that don't have any emissions controls. It's completely normal for a diesel, it means the detergents in the oil are doing their job cleaning up the soot.
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I thought ditching the EGR would keep the oil from turning black. No?
Nope, all the EGR does is recirculate the exhaust to make sure all the fuel gets burnt.

For fun, start your truck and open your oil filler cap, you'll see exhaust or what people call "blow by" coming out of the filler.
Yeah I get that. Its the same with any reciprocating engine until they get hot and parts expand. Only diesels oil turns black so quickly. So its just because a diesel exhaust gas is more "sootie"?
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I did not know the black oil was common to a diesel. I thought black oil after a change was for the 6.0, not for the 6.7. I understand the HEUI injection the oil rails take 1 quart you can't drain and the HPOP reservoir is another 2 quarts out of 15 quarts total, so you get 20% oil leftover after each change. That's like emptying 80% of a muddy water bucket and filling it back up with distilled water expecting it to be clean with 20% muddy water left over. I thought without the HEUI injection and the 20% you can't change, you'd drain enough oil for it to run clean.

If its too clean after a change, I can't figure out when to stop adding it.

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Maybe this will help explain it better.
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