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I have a '13 with about 98K on it and just started running a tune in it from DP Tuner (non-deleted). After the tune, my regens have gone from averaging one regen per tank of fuel to once every 100 miles. I've pinged Jody on this, but at this point neither of us have idea on the cause. I thought I'd throw it up here to see if anyone has seen this before, and if there are any suggestions on why it would be so frequent and what I can do to extend it back out to at least what it was before.

By the way - this is not intended on being a negative toward DP Tuner. They have been great to work with, and everyone else I've seen has had great experiences with their tunes. This may be something unique to my truck...

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Sounds like your 2k away from being out of warranty and should just drop the weight and never have to worry about a regen again, as for why the frequent regens maybe it’s because the “tune” your running is producing more soot? There for needing to regen more to get rid of it? Maybe your DPF is getting clogged and it’s regen’ing (If that’s a word) more to burn it off?
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Sounds like your 2k away from being out of warranty and should just drop the weight and never have to worry about a regen again, as for why the frequent regens maybe itís because the ďtuneĒ your running is producing more soot? There for needing to regen more to get rid of it? Maybe your DPF is getting clogged and itís regeníing (If thatís a word) more to burn it off?
It's definitely the soot level. I'm monitoring it on the tuner and it climbs very rapidly. Like clockwork, it regens at 2.7-2.8 gpl.

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Iíve been going through the same thing with Jody. Iím running the 35hp tune. Not sure whatís going on but Iíve had all sorts of other small weird problems too so I think thereís something strange about my particular truck also. Iíve only got 30k miles on my Ď16 and was dead set against delete, but Iím seriously contemplating now (have some other problems that deleting would alleviate).
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It's definitely the soot level. I'm monitoring it on the tuner and it climbs very rapidly. Like clockwork, it regens at 2.7-2.8 gpl.


Are you using the ngauge to monitor or something else?
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Are you using the ngauge to monitor or something else?
nDash. But you bring up a good point that I wasn't thinking about, and that there may be a difference in the read out I'm getting on the nDash vs the Forscan app I was using prior (which is what my baseline readings pre-tuning were established with). I would think they should both provide the same info, but I'll monitor with Forscan just to validate they are equal.

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nDash. But you bring up a good point that I wasn't thinking about, and that there may be a difference in the read out I'm getting on the nDash vs the Forscan app I was using prior (which is what my baseline readings pre-tuning were established with). I would think they should both provide the same info, but I'll monitor with Forscan just to validate they are equal.


I was actually asking because I use the ngauge and havenít found any dpf related functionality with it so I was trying to find out if I was missing something. Sounds like not.

I too would imagine they are both reading the same info.

I have FORScan also and for some reason havenít thought of it as a tool to monitor dpf related info. Will start that myself. Is there a way to tell it to log those things so you can reference them later or is it only live view?

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I actually like the FORscan app on my phone better than the nDash. There are more PIDs available to monitor. I also noticed that on the nDash some of the PIDs do not display correctly - example is average distance between regens. on the nDash, it shows some apparent random number string like 32814.

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I have a '13 with about 98K on it and just started running a tune in it from DP Tuner (non-deleted). After the tune, my regens have gone from averaging one regen per tank of fuel to once every 100 miles. I've pinged Jody on this, but at this point neither of us have idea on the cause. I thought I'd throw it up here to see if anyone has seen this before, and if there are any suggestions on why it would be so frequent and what I can do to extend it back out to at least what it was before.

By the way - this is not intended on being a negative toward DP Tuner. They have been great to work with, and everyone else I've seen has had great experiences with their tunes. This may be something unique to my truck...
I had the same problem with the DP tuner tune. I worked with Jody and he sent me a new one but same issue. I tried a different tune from a different tuner and i usually go the 500 mi before the mandatory regen set by Ford now. I never really worked with Jody after that, but would be willing to try other tunes if something is figured out. I use Torque Pro to monitor and I could watch my soot levels increase very fast, typically every 150 miles or so before a regen, and this was towing when should be doing passive regens.

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Got forscan up and monitoring. First sign of problem is ford dash % gauge says 80% full whereas forscan says 56.63% and 2.00 g/L. As far as Iíve noticed, the regen begins when ford gauge reaches 100% and if the discrepancy between the 2 is correct on the side of forscan, that means Iím regening early every time.
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