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I have some time with my truck after replacing the direct drive solenoid and the EPC solenoid. There was some improvement with shifts but I still have the 3 to 5 shift flare. My maintenance on the transmission has een every 30000 miles. Drain about 10 quarts and all has been well. I even updated to the 08 pan and filter. Along with updating the plastic plug to the metal plug.
I've had the same tuning from innovative diesel back when I got it in 2007. I've always use their street tuning. My truck now has 150,000 miles.
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I have some time with my truck after replacing the direct drive solenoid and the EPC solenoid. There was some improvement with shifts but I still have the 3 to 5 shift flare. My maintenance on the transmission has een every 30000 miles. Drain about 10 quarts and all has been well. I even updated to the 08 pan and filter. Along with updating the plastic plug to the metal plug.
I've had the same tuning from innovative diesel back when I got it in 2007. I've always use their street tuning. My truck now has 150,000 miles.
long story short, no fix.


so since I last posted in this. sold the truck that was mentined years ago some post up. ended up with another 6oh but a 06 this time. last year I developed the shift flair while tuned, got worse over time that it even did it in stock. learned to just be easy on the shifts till I got to 6th. well then it started to get worse and then randomly drop gears while driving and slow delays into drive or reverse. dropped the pan to change fluid and filters and it was all glittery. new oil I think made it worse cause it was clean. finally got the death code of the flashing tow haul light. drove like that for a few more months till I got funds and dropped in a new ford reman trans.

problem soved.

what I'm getting at is youre basically fked. save up for a new trans. the shift flair is the clutches for the 3 5 shift is basically gone or about to be gone. then its just down hill after that. In my case I just pushed it till near unusable driving. ford did the job so its all under warranty and lines flushed n ****.

5k later.... lol

best I figured the solenoids got jammed from the clutch glitter and didn't allow it to shift or drop gears.

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I have been very pro-active on the transmission fluid myself. But I take truck to Ford and let them hot flush it. I also upgraded to the 2008 pan and filter assembly.

I need to set up my Edge CS2 monitor to see the transmission gears that its in. Because I can feel my transmission shift through all 6 gears regardless of being told they only use 5 gears in the transmission. I will say that the 65 HP Tow Tune that PHP wrote up for my truck is as good as it gets. They spread out the shift points where it scoots down the road as if it was on the 33" tires the truck came with.

The hot flush is $249.00 but its pretty relative as far as cost goes because it beats the hell out of $5,000.00 for a new transmission. Plus I never liked the fact there was always oil in the torque converter and cooler lines that was dirty and beat down and still in my transmission for God knows how much longer. I've had people tell me I'm going to lunch the transmission by doing the hot flushes by knocking pixie dust loose and it was going to take out the transmission.
Not a concern of any kind, now if you have 200,000 miles on a transmission and its never been serviced you may be heading for trouble. But I have my doubts there too because its all pushed right out of the transmission and not into the pan.

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It's concerning that this was it avoidable with very healthy maintenance, +the right upgrades. Where is the real issue?

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@mhatlen you should only actually "feel" 4 shifts, 1-2, 2-3, 3-5, 5-6. You start off in first, so you don't "feel" that one, unless you are counting pulling it out of Park. You can probably also feel converter lock which could be seen as another shift, but if you're "feeling" 6 shifts, you have a unicorn transmission. LOL

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I always thought I felt 6 too but my CTS2 says what I'm feeling is the converter lock in 5th

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@mhatlen you should only actually "feel" 4 shifts, 1-2, 2-3, 3-5, 5-6. You start off in first, so you don't "feel" that one, unless you are counting pulling it out of Park. You can probably also feel converter lock which could be seen as another shift, but if you're "feeling" 6 shifts, you have a unicorn transmission. LOL

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Right I know that's all I should be feeling on the shifts but I swear that I feel it shifting from 1st gear all the way to 6th gear.
What I must be feeling up high is the torque converter locking. But rpm's drop around 400-500 lower rpm's. Which is likely the last thump I'm hearing.

I will say our trucks have a nice transmission and the SCT X4 gives options on the firmness of each gear change. Good ole electronics and computers married to the transmission and engine and that changed everything. A fabulous combo for sure

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I have been very pro-active on the transmission fluid myself. But I take truck to Ford and let them hot flush it. I also upgraded to the 2008 pan and filter assembly.

I need to set up my Edge CS2 monitor to see the transmission gears that its in. Because I can feel my transmission shift through all 6 gears regardless of being told they only use 5 gears in the transmission. I will say that the 65 HP Tow Tune that PHP wrote up for my truck is as good as it gets. They spread out the shift points where it scoots down the road as if it was on the 33" tires the truck came with.

The hot flush is $249.00 but its pretty relative as far as cost goes because it beats the hell out of $5,000.00 for a new transmission. Plus I never liked the fact there was always oil in the torque converter and cooler lines that was dirty and beat down and still in my transmission for God knows how much longer. I've had people tell me I'm going to lunch the transmission by doing the hot flushes by knocking pixie dust loose and it was going to take out the transmission.
Not a concern of any kind, now if you have 200,000 miles on a transmission and its never been serviced you may be heading for trouble. But I have my doubts there too because its all pushed right out of the transmission and not into the pan.
Mine used to be a oilfield fleet truck for some engineering firm in Houston Texas. So that will explain why I'm noe on my third trans for this truck with right now 250k.


And in the past I just did the standard trans oil change for like 150 lol.


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It's concerning that this was it avoidable with very healthy maintenance, +the right upgrades. Where is the real issue?
They die when ever due to your driving style no matter how the maintenance.



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It's 1 2 3 4/5 6. There's 2 4th gears so that's why it's called a 6 speed auto. One 4th is used for warm ups if you didn't already know that. The other 4th for warmer oil.
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