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Preventative HFCM replacement

Hey fellas. I've got a 5,000 mile camping trip up to Yellowstone next month. I'm doing a list of things to the truck including new batteries, turbo cleaning, drive shaft carrier bearing, pinion seal, and rear airbags. I have the blue spring kit and a fantastic running set of original injectors with 135k on the truck. I have the original HFCM and have heard rumblings over the years that they weaken rather than totally fail and can tear up injectors. I do not have a fuel pressure gauge setup so I do not have any reason to believe that mine is bad.

i was wondering if it wouldn't be too bad of an idea to preventatively replace the HFCM with a new OEM part to insure perfect fuel delivery with the 5,000 trip with 5er in tow. For $300 it may not be a bad insurance policy.
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I mean you're already spending all that other money on prevention parts so why not lol might as well do the blue spring at the same time.

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If you don't have a fuel pressure gauge - that is a better thing to do with your money IMO.

My fuel pump started going out at 215k miles. I caught it w/ the gauge.
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If you don't have a fuel pressure gauge - that is a better thing to do with your money IMO.

My fuel pump started going out at 215k miles. I caught it w/ the gauge.
Agreed!! A quick glance at a fuel pressure gauge can rule out a LOT of things when/if things go wrong.

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I have 175k on mine and no fuel pressure gauge either. As a p.m. I just replaced the pump in the hcfm. It was considerably cheaper than replacing the whole hcfm even buying a Racor pump. I had replaced the blue spring several years ago.

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I have 175k on mine and no fuel pressure gauge either. As a p.m. I just replaced the pump in the hcfm. It was considerably cheaper than replacing the whole hcfm even buying a Racor pump. I had replaced the blue spring several years ago.

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Just remember there are many things that can cause low fuel pressure - not just a failing pump or a weak regulator spring.

The fuel tank pickup tube has been known to crack with age, bad fuel can partially clog things, o-rings can fail in the regulator, even the regulator springs get weak as it ages.

Not having a fuel pressure gauge just adds to the likelihood of early injector replacement.

It is like the Ford Gold coolant. Some people will use it and do ok. Many won't. Life is a choice and includes many risk-reward decisions.
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If you're just looking for piece of mind I would put in a fuel pressure gauge. Most of the time pressure will drop a bit over a little time before it fails. Note: I did have one pump fail with no warning.
The other thing you could do is just buy a replacement pump. If memory serves its 3 little bolts and plug Ito replace.
If your're looking for a more permanent solution, consider the "Never Stranded" fuel system from Marty's Diesel.
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Just remember there are many things that can cause low fuel pressure - not just a failing pump or a weak regulator spring.

The fuel tank pickup tube has been known to crack with age, bad fuel can partially clog things, o-rings can fail in the regulator, even the regulator springs get weak as it ages.

Not having a fuel pressure gauge just adds to the likelihood of early injector replacement.

It is like the Ford Gold coolant. Some people will use it and do ok. Many won't. Life is a choice and includes many risk-reward decisions.
Good points. I do plan on adding a gauge but for less than the cost of adding the gauge to my edge insight I could just replace the pump. I do plan on adding a gauge.

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Good points. I do plan on adding a gauge but for less than the cost of adding the gauge to my edge insight I could just replace the pump. I do plan on adding a gauge.

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Fuel pressure gauge is a must IMHO. I'm running the Marty's never stranded get and I love it. Fuel pressure is rock solid all the time with 190/30s.

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Fuel pressure gauge is a must IMHO. I'm running the Marty's never stranded get and I love it. Fuel pressure is rock solid all the time with 190/30s.

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I've got the regulated return. It's a great upgrade IMO and I'm rock solid on 58psi at all times regardless of throttle position.

I've been holding out for the Never Stranded but it's high up on the list. Anyway you could share some pics and which configuration you have. Oh, and if you installed feel free to share any tips or comments on the install!

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