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post #11 of 41 Old 08-14-2017, 10:48 AM Thread Starter
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So update.

No shops have one here in town or anywhere close by. My two Ford dealers won't come off msrp ~$260 even though ANWBL is at $175. I can get a Dorman pan by Friday, leaving me to redo everything this week and replace the pan Friday night before leaving Saturday.

It's really my only viable option other than look around for the torx more and button everything up and ride the risk until after our trip.
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I'd order the OEM pan for $180 from Rock Auto, use the 5% code that they posted when they became sponsors, and spend the $32 for 2-day shipping.

Sunrise or ANWBL might have some expedited shipping options. As it is, stuff from Sunrise seems to appear almost immediately.

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I just realized that the shipping zip was set to mine (of course). Getting it to GA looks to be $45 rather than $32. But... OEM would still be better.

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I'd order the OEM pan for $180 from Rock Auto, use the 5% code that they posted when they became sponsors, and spend the $32 for 2-day shipping.

Sunrise or ANWBL might have some expedited shipping options. As it is, stuff from Sunrise seems to appear almost immediately.
All I saw from Rockauto was three options, a spectra, atp, and a dorman. I didn't see any OEM pans on there for any of the model years I checked (03-05). I went ahead and ordered the dorman. We'll see if it gets here in time. Plan for tonight is to blow down the galley with the air gun. May even run some 1/4 vinyl tubing down there to hook the hose to in order to get air all the way down the galley. Hopefully I can knock it loose and button everything else up and just wait for the pan to arrive.

I'll probably get all done with the new pan on just to find the bit once I back the truck out of the garage haha. Oh well, at least it will back to having the right pan without janky spacers under the motor mounts.

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Sometimes RockAuto has parts that aren't assigned to vehicles in their database.

If you pull the OEM cross off of the aftermarket part listing (in this case 3C3Z6675AA) and search for that, you will find if they have the OEM part as a stray/unassigned. In this case they have 4 reported in stock.

You could prolly call and swap with them if you want. ...or leave as is.
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Got home and put a tube down the galley hole and put compressed air behind it. Didn't hear anything shift or move around. Went all the way down into the pan and heard nothing. I also pulled the dipstick and poked it through the same hole, same story no sounds all the way through to the pan. I sat the injectors back in there holes then blew air all around over the valves, nothing. Just for good measure I also double checked inside the pan again to no avail. Just a waiting game on the fedex man to deliver the new pan before I start cutting the van pan off to get a view of the bottom up. If it did fall inside then it has to be sitting on top of the upper pan.

Anyone see any issues in going ahead and assembling the top half? I can spend the next couple days getting the injectors back in which HPO rail as well as the valve cover on (much more room with the engine jacked up for those valve cover bolts). Basically want to get as much done possible so i'm not up all night Friday before driving to Nashville Saturday morning. I'd like to get the pan in and run it to get it hot so I can check for HPO leaks once I get everything back together.
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If you don't find the torx bit, perhaps add a couple rare earth magnets inside the pan before installing it as added insurance. If it made it that far and found a magnet it would stay put and not cause trouble, forever or until you had the pan off again.

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If you don't find the torx bit, perhaps add a couple rare earth magnets inside the pan before installing it as added insurance. If it made it that far and found a magnet it would stay put and not cause trouble, forever or until you had the pan off again.
I did this for my son on his (used to be my) 7.3L when he dropped the tappet off of the fuel pump into the engine. He bounced the truck up and down while I was under it and I heard it hit the pan. I was more concerned about it NOT making it to the oil pan than having it in there. A couple of rare earth magnets and no issues.

I will say that I have a hard time believing that an injector Torx bit would cause any problems in the oil pan. It is too big to cause problems - JMHO.
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Since this hasn't been brought up yet....and I'm unsure myself since I haven't done one of these personally.....

The upper oil pan is also different in the van chassis, does a truck pan still bolt up to an E-series upper pan? @fordsvtparts any insight here Mike?

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If you don't find the torx bit, perhaps add a couple rare earth magnets inside the pan before installing it as added insurance. If it made it that far and found a magnet it would stay put and not cause trouble, forever or until you had the pan off again.
That was the plan. The more I fish around the more I'm convinced it didn't fall down there. There is so little room around the glow plugs it would have been nearly impossible for it to go straight through.

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I did this for my son on his (used to be my) 7.3L when he dropped the tappet off of the fuel pump into the engine. He bounced the truck up and down while I was under it and I heard it hit the pan. I was more concerned about it NOT making it to the oil pan than having it in there. A couple of rare earth magnets and no issues.

I will say that I have a hard time believing that an injector Torx bit would cause any problems in the oil pan. It is too big to cause problems - JMHO.
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Since this hasn't been brought up yet....and I'm unsure myself since I haven't done one of these personally.....

The upper oil pan is also different in the van chassis, does a truck pan still bolt up to an E-series upper pan? @fordsvtparts any insight here Mike?
This is a problem I hadn't thought of and definitely one I better get a feel for before proceeding, since I will have to cut the van pan out....oh boy.
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I want to say I'm pretty sure you can use them interchangeably, but thought it was worth the mention.....would hate for you to get that far and then be up the proverbial creek without even a boat

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