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post #121 of 125 Old 07-27-2018, 05:14 AM
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I like @bismic 's subtlety. I like bluntness, too. Not meanness. ...but bluntness. So, let's get on it.

You have a no start that appears to be have associated with it a low cranking RPM. So, it is logical to assume that either the battery/starter system isn't delivering, an accessory on the belt is slowing things up, or the engine itself is resisting.

Reread those three reasons if you have to. A low cranking RPM is one of those three.

We asked you to...
  • ...check all of your battery connections.
  • ...remove the belt and try a restart noting the difference in cranking RPM.
  • ...check for blow by.
  • ...report specific FICM and other voltages and sensor data during the starting process.

We asked you to do this because: a) it is the easiest way to actually move through the logical process, and b) it would give us some clues how to help you further.

What you did:
  • Added fuel.
  • Cranked until the batteries were low.
  • *Then* checked the wiring, found a loose cable, and tightened it.
  • Were unable to proceed further because you had already run down your batteries.


Okay. Here's the deal...

There are some people on here that want to fix their problems and there are others on here who merely want to complain about the bad hand that has been dealt to them by God Almighty himself. Don't be that second guy.

Grab your tools and do what was recommended in the order that it was recommended. ...or take it in and be done with it. There is no shame in taking it in. ...but asking for advice, ignoring the advice, and complaining about what *did* happen isn't a reasonable option, in my opinion.

You seem to be put off by the leak. I kinda get that. ...but that leak is not likely causing your no start. I recommend that you get it to start and shut it off when there is roughly 5x as much oil on the ground. At that point, the source should be obvious. Then, you can easily fix that.

About the particulars... If you don't know how to loosen the belt, just say so. It take a 1/2" breaker bar and a few minutes. There are any number of people on here willing to walk you through it. ...as long as you are not that second guy. But, you gotta ask.

Asking for hands-on help - which you just did - is a reasonable option, too. I especially believe this when people are physically unable to do what is asked. I would feel better about it, though, if it appeared that you made an attempt to do what was already recommended. It does not. In that regard, I am hoping that whomever *does* help you is willing to act on our recommendations.

I didn't read this whole thread. I only jumped on at this last no start. But - from the thread post count - I can assume that a lot of people have spent a lot of time trying to help you. The onus is on you to make yourself worthy of their time and effort. Please do.

Again... I am not trying to be an a$$. I am trying to cut to the chase on this. You seem like a nice guy and that makes people want to help. I genuinely hope that this - along with everything else - does help.

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I like @bismic 's subtlety. I like bluntness, too. Not meanness. ...but bluntness. So, let's get on it.



You have a no start that appears to be have associated with it a low cranking RPM. So, it is logical to assume that either the battery/starter system isn't delivering, an accessory on the belt is slowing things up, or the engine itself is resisting.



Reread those three reasons if you have to. A low cranking RPM is one of those three.



We asked you to...
  • ...check all of your battery connections.
  • ...remove the belt and try a restart noting the difference in cranking RPM.
  • ...check for blow by.
  • ...report specific FICM and other voltages and sensor data during the starting process.



We asked you to do this because: a) it is the easiest way to actually move through the logical process, and b) it would give us some clues how to help you further.



What you did:
  • Added fuel.
  • Cranked until the batteries were low.
  • *Then* checked the wiring, found a loose cable, and tightened it.
  • Were unable to proceed further because you had already run down your batteries.





Okay. Here's the deal...



There are some people on here that want to fix their problems and there are others on here who merely want to complain about the bad hand that has been dealt to them by God Almighty himself. Don't be that second guy.



Grab your tools and do what was recommended in the order that it was recommended. ...or take it in and be done with it. There is no shame in taking it in. ...but asking for advice, ignoring the advice, and complaining about what *did* happen isn't a reasonable option, in my opinion.



You seem to be put off by the leak. I kinda get that. ...but that leak is not likely causing your no start. I recommend that you get it to start and shut it off when there is roughly 5x as much oil on the ground. At that point, the source should be obvious. Then, you can easily fix that.



About the particulars... If you don't know how to loosen the belt, just say so. It take a 1/2" breaker bar and a few minutes. There are any number of people on here willing to walk you through it. ...as long as you are not that second guy. But, you gotta ask.



Asking for hands-on help - which you just did - is a reasonable option, too. I especially believe this when people are physically unable to do what is asked. I would feel better about it, though, if it appeared that you made an attempt to do what was already recommended. It does not. In that regard, I am hoping that whomever *does* help you is willing to act on our recommendations.



I didn't read this whole thread. I only jumped on at this last no start. But - from the thread post count - I can assume that a lot of people have spent a lot of time trying to help you. The onus is on you to make yourself worthy of their time and effort. Please do.



Again... I am not trying to be an a$$. I am trying to cut to the chase on this. You seem like a nice guy and that makes people want to help. I genuinely hope that this - along with everything else - does help.


Iím fairly blunt too so I appreciate the response.
Yesterday I was just fed up. I walked away and started researching a little more before giving up and having it taken it.
I just moved and donít have all my tools just as of yet. So Iím working out of a 101 piece craftsman set. I have the batteries on the trickle and will take the belt off next then crank when I go back to it.

Again, thanks for the encouragement and Iíll get back with the requested information.


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Thanks, Ed, for taking my comment in the spirit that it was intended.

...and being without tools can be as bad of a circumstance as the physical limitations that I mentioned.

You'll get this sorted out.
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Just south of colton? That's about an hour and half away from me. Covina. I'm out of town till mid week. If you don't have any success over the weekend, I might be able to come give you a hand next week
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I'm newwwww, IDK what to doooo

After coming back from an unexpected ďvacationĒ, I said to hell with it and sent it in. I bought the ICP sensor/pigtail, ac compressor/pag/FOT and tensioner. The shop installed and the truck starts right up now.

AC clutch isnít engaging though. I guess itís time to break out the DMM ( checked and replaced the fuse. )


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