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I understand your thought, but I was getting 16 highway before I ever studded my truck or made major updates. At 75 my rpms are running closer to 1800... Believe what you want.

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What modifications do you have? My truck is studded, has an EGR delete, Banks Ram air intake, and I'm only on a 4" lift with 35x12.5R20 Toyo R/T's set at 70 PSI. I also have an SCT X4 with tunes from Quick tricks auto, here is what I've logged so far:




The max I've gotten is 16.42 MPG with the lowest being 14.24 MPG and if anything these are optimistic numbers since when I'm doing 70, my speedo shows about 74. I'd like to get into the 20 MPG range though, what should I do to my truck?

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What modifications do you have? My truck is studded, has an EGR delete, Banks Ram air intake, and I'm only on a 4" lift with 35x12.5R20 Toyo R/T's set at 70 PSI. I also have an SCT X4 with tunes from Quick tricks auto, here is what I've logged so far:









The max I've gotten is 16.42 MPG with the lowest being 14.24 MPG and if anything these are optimistic numbers since when I'm doing 70, my speedo shows about 74. I'd like to get into the 20 MPG range though, what should I do to my truck?
Before I tuned my truck I was getting 15.5 hwy with a dead cylinder and a weak injector.

Studded, del, Banks ram air, Banks 4" turbo back, blue spring upgrade, 5w40 Schaeffer's synthetic, RevX, cetane boost, new injectors and glow plugs (OEM), oil & coolant bypass, new oil cooler, mishimoto radiator, Bulletproof FICM with atlas 40, Toyo 37x12.5R17's (40 psi), 8" Bilstein lift, Bilstein dual steering stabilizer, Lucas synthetic rear diff fluid, 7.73 gears, SCT x4 tuner (tyrant extreme tune), dummy plugs, upgraded STC, upgraded standpipe, Moog front end, BPD billet water pump, upgraded billet turbo compressor wheel. If I run anything other than the extreme tune, I get 18-20 mpg hwy. I mostly travel flat hwy and soft on the pedal. On extreme I may be getting closer to 24.5 mpg, either way, I'm getting 20+ and I'm thrilled by that in a near 10,000 lb truck. Around town on extreme, I get roughly 18 mpg. Although, I don't like running extreme all the time due to the much firmer shifts, I'd prefer to not destroy my transmission, yet. The hotter timing tunes push out great mpg if you stay out of boost.

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Scan gauge doesnt mean anything to me. Unless it is set up exactly correct it will also be off. Just out the box it wont be correct. I use one in my 04, and prior to setting it up, it would tell me im averaging 22+. Once i set it up it says about 18 and hand calc is consistent 17. This is a 2wd with atlas40 on it. The other issue i see is unless you have upgraded gearing to match the new tire size, you need to take into account the extra miles driven with larger tires. With 38's it was about 7 miles per 50 driven. Now with 40's its 10. And one other thing, when u say 75 is that the speedo speed or actual? At 75 in my 03 is about 92mph on GPS.

Im not saying you may be getting better mileage than i with different tuning, but if youre truley getting over 20 with it then i would love a build list so i can copy it. You definitely have a unicorn.

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A good way to check any adjustment on tire size is to get on a long highway with mile markers. Check your odometer at a specific mile marker and then check it after 20, 50, or even 100, miles. Make adjustments in hand calculations accordingly.

Just something I have done with every vehicle I have owned.

I also like to verify the speedometer with any highway department radar setup - I hate to be surprised w/ tickets!

I have seen MANY people discuss fuel economy since the early 6.0L days. Very few people hand calculated and even fewer checked accuracy of odometer and fuel level when filling up.

The 03's got better fuel economy and then they changed the piston combustion chamber and then changed the cam shaft (in late 04). All emissions based changes. IMO everyone lost on those changes because the overall carbon balance wasn't really improved.

Differential gearing, tire selection, not lifted vs lifted, rpm, and watching braking habits are the best ways to get your mileage up (even A/C operation and as stated above, fan clutch selection can affect mpg). Me - I need mud terrains for a decent amount of the year and I like the look of the larger rims/tires. Also, I just can't drive 55!!!

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Hey guys, so im looking at doing some much needed maintenance to the truck. im at 186k, Any reservations using a GATES water pump? BPD isnt really in the budget, just trying to do as much as I can in one shot so the gates is under 100$

Truck is stock, not tuned so im not overly worried about over working parts.


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Hey guys, so im looking at doing some much needed maintenance to the truck. im at 186k, Any reservations using a GATES water pump? BPD isnt really in the budget, just trying to do as much as I can in one shot so the gates is under 100$

Truck is stock, not tuned so im not overly worried about over working parts.
BPD or DieselSite are the two I would trust if going aftermarket...

Both have metal impellers, and the DieselSite pump is ~$120

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BPD or DieselSite are the two I would trust if going aftermarket...

Both have metal impellers, and the DieselSite pump is ~$120

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Ahh forgot about Dieselsite, thanks


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Hey guys, so im looking at doing some much needed maintenance to the truck. im at 186k, Any reservations using a GATES water pump? BPD isnt really in the budget, just trying to do as much as I can in one shot so the gates is under 100$



Truck is stock, not tuned so im not overly worried about over working parts.
I'd save money for the BPD, if you can. It will likely outlast your truck.

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ordered the dieselsite. thanks again, would much rather be buying stuff for the Harley... but its time to do some much needed maintenance.
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Let me put it this way. I'm an engineer that grew up in a shop, so I can assure that I'm not some rookie taking a stab in the dark and assuming that all of my electronics are spot on. One going thing here that I've noticed is that everyone seems to doubt anyone else's experience here... Maybe it's because I didn't write a dissertation to explain my process or my experience, but I'm not going to. I didn't figure this would create such a freaking uproar. Simply put, I've driving the same distance week to week for 5 years now, and my fuel consumption has dropped to half of what it was with some of my recent updates. I'd say a have a fairly good constant to compare my findings to. Facts are facts, I'm putting in half the fuel is was prior, I fill up every week at the same station, at the same time, and it's generally the same amount. So, whether anyone wants to believe that I'm having success, I don't care; my wallet gets the win as well as my piece of mind. With that said, my ScanGauge is set up properly and it accounts for my tires. I figured I'd have a little more promotions of celebration vs all of the hate, negativity, and belittling that I'm experiencing currently. My mistake for ever posting a picture of my lieometer that was actually representing a fairly accurate, but not perfect calculation of my mpg.

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Easy guy, I was just funnin' with ya Didn't mean to come off as belittling if I did...

And I AM serious about getting 22MPG coming from 4800' down to 200' - HAND CALCULATED It's usually ~16-17 going the other way LOL

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