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post #21 of 7571 Old 04-16-2006, 06:02 PM
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this should put some things into perspective.........

the chart below shows that gas prices...there is $1.36 in total profits per gallon to pump, refine, haul, market, and sell fuel at 2.65 a gallon.........thats not that much considering there could be as many as four companies involved counting the retail station......its just a touch more than 20 cents a gallon profit per party involved.....assuming that there were not multiple carriers to transport it, etc....which reduces the cost per party involved......

Expense Amount per gallon
Production costs 33
Producer profit 95
Refining costs 40
Refining profit 10
Transportation costs 12
Transportation profit 9
Marketing costs 4
Marketing profit 4
Retailer costs 8
Retailer profit 8
US Taxes 19
State taxes (avg. 23) 6 to 39 details
Local taxes 0 to 20
TOTAL $2.65

now look at this...you complain about fuel companies....but they dont make that big of a profit percentage wise......you should be complaining more about your computer, soda, toilatries, and apliances.......

Company.......................Net Profit(billions)...........Revenue(billions)...... .........Profit Margin
Citigroup (banking).............$7.1........................ .... $21.5 ...........................33%
Microsoft...........................$3.1 ............................ $9.7 ......................... 32%
Coca-Cola ....................... $1.3 ...............................$6.0 .........................21%
Procter & Gamble.................$2.0 ............................. $14.8...........................14%
General Electric....................$4.7 ..............................$41.6............... .........11%
ExxonMobil........................ $9.9.............................. $92.6 .........................11%
ConocoPhillips......................$3.8 ..............................$48.7............... ......... 8%
IBM ..................................$1.5 ........................... $21.5......................... 7%
Chevron ............................ $3.6 .......................... $51.1 ..........................7%
Wal-Mart ........................... $2.8 .........................$76.8 .............................. 4%

oil companies had WAY more revanue but a lesser profit percentage than a lot of other companies.......


i quote this from another site....

Despite record prices, the real price of gasoline has been trending downward. In inflation-adjusted 2004-dollars, gasoline prices are 26 percent lower than the 1981 high of $2.79 per gallon, the American Petroleum Institute (API) recently reported. This means that the real cost of gasoline to consumers has fallen by $0.73 per gallon between then and now.

just some things to think about before you think you got gouged.........Marc

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Good info Marc!!!!

However, I would still like to know why we are paying more for Diesel than Super??? Any ideas?

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Good info Marc!!!!

However, I would still like to know why we are paying more for Diesel than Super??? Any ideas?
diesel here is cheaper than reg. grade. alot of it comes down to when the diesel was bought, its cheaper to make diesel,less refineing, but since it is not as popular as gasoline, they charge more for it. i dont know what % of diesel fuel is made compared with reg gas, but it is far less. diesel prices fluctuate more than gas for that reason.

jet a (diesel) for aircraft is almost $5/ gallon now. its more expensive because of the FAA regulations that are in place for aviation fuel. 100ll (reg av. gas) is $4 gallon.

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diesel here is cheaper than reg. grade. alot of it comes down to when the diesel was bought, its cheaper to make diesel,less refineing, but since it is not as popular as gasoline, they charge more for it. i dont know what % of diesel fuel is made compared with reg gas, but it is far less. diesel prices fluctuate more than gas for that reason.

jet a (diesel) for aircraft is almost $5/ gallon now. its more expensive because of the FAA regulations that are in place for aviation fuel. 100ll (reg av. gas) is $4 gallon.
actually 099, diesels is the remaining leftover byproduct waste from the production of gasoline...so there is no good reason for it to cost so much.....the majority of the refining cost is taken care of when the gas is produced.......Marc
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it's about 3.08 in Telluride CO. But the lowest I have found is 2.99
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actually 099, diesels is the remaining leftover byproduct waste from the production of gasoline...so there is no good reason for it to cost so much.....the majority of the refining cost is taken care of when the gas is produced.......Marc
That's what I thought Marc...... We are running, well when I filled up on the 14th, $2.79 a gallon. It could be higher now.

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I see Marc's points are very well expressed and I agree with him. However at the same time I bought a diesel powered vehicle mainly because of the power and mileage increases versus a gas powered truck of the same size. My old 95 chevy z71 got about 12 miles to the gallon, and weighed probably 2 thousand pounds less than my old PSD. I got around 16 mpg average in the PSD. Most of you know I recently sold my PSD. One of the reasons that contributed to my decision was that I just couldn't get much more than a best of 18 or so mpg out of it. I still wanted a diesel, I still wanted a "big" truck, but I needed my dollar to stretch as far as possible. I went with a cummins because it was affordable for one, has great power, is still big to me despite stock height, and at the same time I get close to 20 city mpg and have come close to 25 highway. I also like having a manual because I can choose to put it in a higher gear versus in my powerstroke I didn't have much of an option until the pcm told the tranny to go into OD. My tank is only 3 gallons less than my psd, yet I've noticed a substantial decrease in the amount of time between fill-ups. My common-rail cummins won't blow smoke no matter what I do, which sucks in one way but in another I look at it as less of my money visibly coming out of the tailpipe. I had way too much fun blowing smoke in my psd, lol. I miss that, but with prices threatening to go over 3 a gallon again this summer I can do without the smoke. I do still think that the price of gas/fuel is totally uncalled for. For a long time throughout the late 90's and first few years of this century I never saw fuel get anywhere close to 2 bucks a gallon. It hit around 1.60 a few times but was pretty consistent in the 1.30's for a couple of years. Then one day it went over $2 and I have NEVER seen it go below that since. I'm also quite bothered by the fact that diesel is the same price and in some cases higher than a fuel that it's a "leftover" from! We're all entitled to our opinions regardless of the facts that are presented to us. My opinion is that something is being hidden from us, and we're all getting bent over and having tree trunks jammed up the derriere. Ifdon't see the price getting to 5 or 6 a gallon. It's hard enough on people paying the $4 that some were paying last summer. Even people that have small hondas and fuel efficient cars will feel the pain. Especially anyone that averages less than 20mpg. Think about it...some people go through 30-40 gallons a week commuting. Do the math...that's nearly a grand a month on gas/fuel! Many people wouldn't be able to afford it, crime would probably increase as people would run out of money and turn to other means of getting it....just my thoughts.....i'm done
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keep in mind that the saleries in other countrys are probally lower than here in the usa, especially the countrys with the lower fuel cost..

Gas prices around the world
Think you pay a lot for gas? Perhaps you'd prefer to live in Venezuela.

Gasoline prices in the United States, which have recently hit record highs, are actually much lower than in many countries. A few countries, like Venezuela have prices that are far lower.


The main driver of price disparities between countries is government policy, according to AirInc, a company that tracks the cost of living in various places around the world. Many European nations tax gasoline heavily, with taxes making up as much as 75 percent of the cost of a gallon of gasoline, said a spokesperson for AirInc.

In Venezuela, on the other hand, oil is produced by a government-owned company and local gasoline prices are kept low as a benefit to the nation's citizens, he said. All prices updated May, 2004.


Nation City Price
UK TEESIDE $5.64
HONG KONG HONG KONG $5.62
UK MILFORD HAVEN $5.56
UK READING $5.56
UK NORWICH $5.54
GERMANY FRANKFURT $5.29
DENMARK COPENHAGEN $5.08
NORWAY STAVANGER $5.07
NORWAY OSLO $4.93
ITALY ROME $4.86
TURKEY ISTANBUL $4.85
PORTUGAL LISBON $4.80
KOREA SEOUL $4.71
SWITZERLAND GENEVA $4.56
KOREA KOJE/OKPO $4.53
AUSTRIA VIENNA $4.50
CROATIA ZAGREB $4.32
JAPAN TOKYO $3.84
AUSTRALIA SYDNEY $2.63
CAMBODIA PHNOM PENH $2.57
TAIWAN TAIPEI $2.47
GEORGIA TBILISI $2.31
LAOS VIENTIANE $1.66
THAILAND BANGKOK $1.60
CHINA TIANJIN $1.54
CHINA SHANGHAI $1.48
RUSSIA MOSCOW $1.45
KAZAKHSTAN ALMATY $1.36
KAZAKHSTAN ATYRAU $1.35
TAJIKISTAN DUSHANBE $1.32
AZERBAIJAN BAKU $1.15
VENEZUELA CARACAS $0.14

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paid $2.79 here today. $50.00 and not a full tank.

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