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post #1 of 22 Old 12-15-2019, 05:43 PM Thread Starter
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While the Engine is out...

I live in upstate NY, so it's finally time to replace my rusty oil pan. The consensus is that to do it right, you gotta pull the engine. My diesel guy is going to do the work next month. I was also planning to replace the manifolds, replace the turbo pedestal (delete the EBPV) to prevent further leaks, and rebuilt the turbo while it's out. Any other things to consider replacing while it's out? Are there fuel or break lines that are in real tight locations with the engine in?

BTW, I'm not looking for performance upgrades just preventative maintenance.
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I would do all the exhaust manifold and up pipes bolts. If not the manifold bolts, definitely the up pipe bolts. And small stuff like glow plugs that are easy money when the engine is out


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I would do either bellowed up pipes or if you don't want to spend the money for new up pipes at least put new donuts in the stock up pipes.

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Manifolds, up-pipes (bellowed. Amazon has sets for less than $100. It's just pipe), and the passenger fuel line. Everything else is pretty easy to access later.

If you have the budget and really want to make the most of the engine being out, I'd do a water pump with coolant flush (replace with ELC), reseal the oil cooler, rebuild the turbo, reseal the CCV, replace/reseal the turbo pedestal, and replace the EBP line. These are all pretty simple to do with the engine in as well so could easily be put off until you actually have a problem, but I'm sure there would be some savings in doing it all now.

Finally, be sure to replace the dipstick tube as well. I'm assuming this would be part of it anyways but just making sure.
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Manifolds, up-pipes (bellowed. Amazon has sets for less than $100. It's just pipe), and the passenger fuel line. Everything else is pretty easy to access later.

If you have the budget and really want to make the most of the engine being out, I'd do a water pump with coolant flush (replace with ELC), reseal the oil cooler, rebuild the turbo, reseal the CCV, replace/reseal the turbo pedestal, and replace the EBP line. These are all pretty simple to do with the engine in as well so could easily be put off until you actually have a problem, but I'm sure there would be some savings in doing it all now.

Finally, be sure to replace the dipstick tube as well. I'm assuming this would be part of it anyways but just making sure.
Thx. When I had the valve covers off to put new injectors and glow plugs in, I put a serious kink in the dip stick tube... The bracket was held by a nut on top of a valve cover stud, which was seized up and it twisted during removal. I had to grind the dip stick down nice and skinny to make it fit afterwards! That's on my list.
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Anyone have experience with Pro Source Diesel? They have a kit with EBP delete pedestal, bellowed up pipes, billet wheel, and hardware for $360.
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I don't have any experience with them but you may have fitment issues with the up pipes (some of the cheaper ones have had fitment issues from what i remember) and just my personal opinion is i would pay the extra money for a WW2. That one is probably a cheap Chinese one. That thing spins fast and to me quality is more important then price.

Also if there is any chance you may ever need to replace valve springs it is WAY easier when it is out.

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My 95 dually has been in the shop for a week now. I'm getting an engine refresh/reseal done. All new upper and lower gasket sets, Ford oil pan sealant with dip stick mount replaced, rings, bearings, turbo rebuild and ww2 install, heads resurfaced and ARP head bolts installed, new turbo to pedestal bolts and pedestal to engine bolts, new exhaust man. bolts, new water pump/thermostat, new LPOP, HPOP O-rings replaced, and fresh new synthetic oil. My mechanic is going to try to get it back to me before X-mas but he has a busy shop this time of year. Can't wait.
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My 95 dually has been in the shop for a week now. I'm getting an engine refresh/reseal done. All new upper and lower gasket sets, Ford oil pan sealant with dip stick mount replaced, rings, bearings, turbo rebuild and ww2 install, heads resurfaced and ARP head bolts installed, new turbo to pedestal bolts and pedestal to engine bolts, new exhaust man. bolts, new water pump/thermostat, new LPOP, HPOP O-rings replaced, and fresh new synthetic oil. My mechanic is going to try to get it back to me before X-mas but he has a busy shop this time of year. Can't wait.
How much is the engine refresh going to cost? It sounds like a rebuild?

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All the parts I've got just under 3700 and my labor cost is 3500 or less. That will depend on what the crank and cam looks like and a few other things that can't be determined until the engine is tore down. There was 203000 miles on it and I'm the third owner and I have no clue to how it was taken care of by them. I had an oil leak in the front of the pan so knowing the right way to fix that was to remove the engine and decided since it's out I would do what I've always wanted and planned to do when I bought the truck. I'm not planning to do anything to the block, just rings and bearings, but that's one of the things to be determined. Also not doing anything to the heads except guides and a very lite resurfacing. Everything else is new on the truck that I've gotten in the 7 years I've owned it. The last planned upgrades are body and paint and GearVender. When complete I'll be into it for 30K. Just want to pass it on to my son so everything I'm doing is making sure it will last his life time. I'm hoping for at least another 10 so I can enjoy it too.
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