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Lost steering and brakes - wth

Backing into my driveway I heard something then I lost my power steering and brakes. Red fluid everywhere. There is no fluid in the power steering pump but the brake fluid is full. I'm looking everywhere. I don't see any hoses disconnected. The hose from the up to the brakes is in tact. I'm guessing it uses power steering fluid to operate the brakes.

It hasn't been making any noises or anything. I just installed a Hydra chip but I am assuming these are unrelated.

The wheel on the pump isn't loose. The fluid seems to be from the pump but I can't see where.

Any advice before I take it to the shop? Do I need towed?

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something blew and spewed the fluid

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something blew and spewed the fluid
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Yeah, the steering pump supplies pressure for steering and brakes
Likely the fitting where the pressure hose attaches to the pump(swivel fitting) but could be anywhere along that hose

Running the pump without oil will damage it -- so, yeah need a flatbed unless you replace the hose your self
Personally, I would take the opportunity to learn more about the truck -- and replace the hose in the driveway

Remove the front tire(jack stand for safety) , remove the fender liner for easier access to the pump lines
an hour or so and save the rest of the money you would have spent at the shop, for beer
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I recently had to have a hose replaced. Mine split enough to let fluid out over time, but I was filling it up everyday before getting it fixed so I was headed that way.

Start by checking the hose that goes from the pump to the Hydro-boost unit and the one that goes from HB unit to the steering box.

Then get some cleaner or a pressure washer - the red stuff does make a mess!


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It's not easy but the hoses can be replaced without removing the inner fender, but you have to pull the intercooler tube... good time to clean the boots, and the foil sound deadener is likely soaked with steering fluid too, good time to remove that if you're inclined.
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Thanks so much for the advice. It's that steel fitting hose on the side. Hose and fitting seem fine. I don't feel like ripping everything apart. The auto store is 20 minutes away (one way) so I'd spend all day screwing with this. AAA towed me. I'll pay the shop to save myself the time and frustrations. The fitting came loose for a reason and my guess is that the threads on the pump are toasted. Unlike most posters, I'll post an update when I get her home.

This damn thing is becoming the money pit.

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New pump and high pressure hoses. $700 poorer and the money pit is back on the road. Brakes actually feel better now. Not $700 better.

Shoulda bought the new ram last year when they offered me 8000 in trade

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So the pump was bad too?

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