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post #21 of 57 Old 11-25-2019, 02:19 PM
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Thanks for the excellent reply. I have 230k. I absolutely want to retain the longevity of the 7.3. I would like to get to 300k or 350k.

I don't want to do the intake. I like the factory one. My goal with the Hydra is just to wake it up and give it some pep. A pep and wake up for $300 is well worth it. It's not worth sacrificing the longevity.

Do you think it's worth it if I don't do the intake? I may down the road but no time soon. Also, if I want to make 300k on my original engine, tranny, and injectors would the Hydra possibly sacrifice this?

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At 230K I'm willing to bet $100 that your intercooler boots are leaking, up-pipes are leaking, and/or have a leaking injector(s). Any of this will cause serve power loss and the hydra or any performance item will make it worse. Easiest way to check is pop the hood and see if you see any soot (blackness) around the boots, turbo y pipe (piece the pipes meet at in the middle of the engine that connects to the turbo) also look at the up-pipes behind the motor, some times they get so bad they're extremely loose and can be removed by hand at one end. For $10 you can get an OBDII to blutooth adapter that plugs into your OBDII port, just make sure its ELM27 compliant. There is an app called Torque on the Google Play Store and sync it to your phone. You can use it to monitor the boost your truck is making. Stock 7.3's make around 18-20psi, if you're below that then you have issues.

There is another app you can use to perform a buzz test which will tell you how healthy your injectors are.

You may like the factory intake but your truck doesn't. Ford designed it to meet US emission standards. Not get as much air into your turbo as possible. 1 million miles is possible on the hydra but only with the basics.

If you're on your original all stock tranny with 230K miles the hydra or any performance tune will most likely instantly grenade it. You're going to need serious cooling and a modified valve body at minimum to give it a fighting shot.

Everyone says they drive like grandpa till they have their laptop in their hand loading up tunes and see the "140hp cummins killer mega shredder" file and next thing you know your doing 130 yelling yeye out the window.

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Php Hydra chip

I had the TS canned tunes on my 7.3 for years. the only time EGTs got out of hand was when I was pulling a small trailer in the 140 tune and was purposely pushing it hard just for a sec to see what it would do

I donít think I ever saw above 1100 degrees towing quads and cars in the 50 and 75 tunes.

Youíll be perfectly fine without gauges IF you are responsible. Beat on the truck on a hot tune with a trailer and youíll have issues


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The Hydra makes a huge difference, but don't buy one until you have gauges.
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all this you got to have gauges with a hydra is crap ! unless you are racing you dont need them. i roadrace.

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all this you got to have gauges with a hydra is crap ! unless you are racing you dont need them. i roadrace.
All will be fine until you burn up your valves, put a hole in a piston, or overheat your transmission. All things that could be caught and prevented if you had gauges.

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This whole thread is

The OP has asked in multiple threads the same question and he keeps getting the same answer but continues to ask about the hydra... Anyone who has done 5 minutes of research would learn the following:

Currently the Hydra is generally seen as second to none for the 7.3l platform and its been ran for 100,000s miles on 100,000s of vehicles with no reduction in longevity specifically related to the chip... Its usually a combination of injectors, turbos, heavy ft and sometimes improper tunes from some of these Facebook fanboy clubs.
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All will be fine until you burn up your valves, put a hole in a piston, or overheat your transmission. All things that could be caught and prevented if you had gauges.
BS ! i have over 60,000 miles on my 120hp hydra. i have also been racing and building race engines since the mid 70's. race cars and race trucks need gauges and the hydra is NOT a race chip.

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This whole thread is

The OP has asked in multiple threads the same question and he keeps getting the same answer but continues to ask about the hydra... Anyone who has done 5 minutes of research would learn the following:

Currently the Hydra is generally seen as second to none for the 7.3l platform and its been ran for 100,000s miles on 100,000s of vehicles with no reduction in longevity specifically related to the chip... Its usually a combination of injectors, turbos, heavy ft and sometimes improper tunes from some of these Facebook fanboy clubs.
yep ! if you have a big turbo, big injectors and other engine mods you need gauges.

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BS ! i have over 60,000 miles on my 120hp hydra. i have also been racing and building race engines since the mid 70's. race cars and race trucks need gauges and the hydra is NOT a race chip.
It's heat over time that kills engines, gauges would be less important for drag racing since your not running it that hot for very long. You would be surprised how hot your EGTs can get on a 120 HP setting.

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Running the PHP Hydra on both trucks (F-250 CCSRW 4X4, F-350 CCDRW 2X4) nothing but standard mods on the trucks, intakes, exhaust, but the F-350 does have a KC turbo but I'm still on stock injectors. The standard tunes from Bill (PHP) work just fine, some people having shifting problems but a custom valve body usually cures this issue. If you get a Hydra I suggest some gauges so you can monitor EGT's, etc...... I believe they are having a Black Friday sale on the Hydra you might want to check out their web site.

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