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Crank/No Start, Loping

Went to run an errand the other day after not driving for a few days. Truck started right up. Got to the corner half a block from my house and engine loping really bad. Turn around and head back to the house, truck dies as I pull into the driveway, won't start after that.

Check my oil, and dipstick is completely dry. Look around, there's a small spot of oil on the ground about the size of a coffee can. Get stuff to do an oil change.

During oil change, drain out about 2 gallons of oil. Replace filters and oil.

Truck cranks, but doesn't start. Turned over once and fired, but died immediately, Just cranks now.


Any ideas where to start. Not throwing any codes.

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Went to run an errand the other day after not driving for a few days. Truck started right up. Got to the corner half a block from my house and engine loping really bad. Turn around and head back to the house, truck dies as I pull into the driveway, won't start after that.



Check my oil, and dipstick is completely dry. Look around, there's a small spot of oil on the ground about the size of a coffee can. Get stuff to do an oil change.



During oil change, drain out about 2 gallons of oil. Replace filters and oil.



Truck cranks, but doesn't start. Turned over once and fired, but died immediately, Just cranks now.





Any ideas where to start. Not throwing any codes.


Hi are you getting smoke out the tail pipe wile cranking. Check icp sensor for oil in plug if oil in plug replace but try cranking it with it unhooked see if it starts. Can you watch icp and ipr duty cycle wile cranking you need 500 psi on icp and duty cycle between 9-30 percent Check wiring to cam sensor. I would check fuel filter for oil in it as well if you find oil there you have bad injector o rings.


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Hi are you getting smoke out the tail pipe wile cranking. Check icp sensor for oil in plug if oil in plug replace but try cranking it with it unhooked see if it starts. Can you watch icp and ipr duty cycle wile cranking you need 500 psi on icp and duty cycle between 9-30 percent Check wiring to cam sensor. I would check fuel filter for oil in it as well if you find oil there you have bad injector o rings.


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No smoke while cranking, back in February during colder weather got a puff of white smoke right at engine start. Don't have forscan or torque pro. Not sure if readings from Edge CTS are accurate during crank, ICP and IPR are both showing zero during crank. Before it died yesterday, I remember IPR duty cycle was around 1000 and ICP was around 300psi. That was at a real rough idle right before dying. No throttle response yesterday when it died as well.

Can't try unplugging ICP till later on this afternoon.

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Unplugged ICP, still no start. Looks like ICP full of oil?
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Drained fuel bowl. No oil in the fuel. Replaced fuel filter as it’s been about 10k miles on the current one.

Turn key on but didn’t hear fuel system pressurize or pump fuel to the bowl.
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Sounds like a CPS to me


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Need to check fuse to fuel pump and then check wiring to fuel pump. Check the ipr on the hpop make sure the tin nut is still there and holding it on. I believe I edge is accurate but I have never had one on my truck I have been using scan gauge 2. If you can put the truck back to a stock tune and try again.


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Need to check fuse to fuel pump and then check wiring to fuel pump. Check the ipr on the hpop make sure the tin nut is still there and holding it on. I believe I edge is accurate but I have never had one on my truck I have been using scan gauge 2. If you can put the truck back to a stock tune and try again.


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No tunes on my truck, never got around to putting a tuner on it. The nut on the IPR is that the one on the outside of the IPR, the first one you would take off?

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Be sure the fuel pump runs first -- you can hear it run, or get under the truck and get a hand on the pump -- only runs for about 20 seconds at key on

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Turn key on but didnít hear fuel system pressurize or pump fuel to the bowl.
Yea, let's not gloss over this!

No Fuel = No Start

So you don't hear the pump run when you first roll on the key? You get a WTS light then?

If so, check the fuses and the Inertia sw that power the pump. Next, check for Power at the pump itself, see if you can "feel" it running immediately after turning the key to On.

If there's 12v at the pump and it doesn't run you may need a new one.

Is the tank at 1/4 or below? A bad pick up can cause you to run dry at that level.
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