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steering stabilizer kit? Also rear end hopping

I've previously only driven short wheel base jeeps for offroad, so I'm not sure what translates over to a much longer and heavier truck.

I took the truck on some fairly mild trails this past weekend, and noticed two things. 1st, the rear end would hop around when going up snowy hills when loosing traction. 2nd: on the 300+ miles of freeway driving at 70-75mph I noticed a very slight shake to the steering wheel every now and then.

For the steering shake, I looked and felt with my hand the steering components as a friend turned the steering wheel back and forth over and over. I don't see or feel any loose joints or bushings, I'm confident the steering and track bar are fine. So I'm guessing the tires aren't perfectly balanced. But I also notice that unlike my jeeps, there is no steering stabilizer on the truck. Would a single stabilizer do fine? or is a dual stabilizer needed for a heavy truck like this? The shake is very slight, no where near what I would call "death wobble" (and yes, I know what real death wobble is)

For the rear end hopping, I only really noticed this while driving up a mild incline trail with 1-2 feet of snow, and once or twice on steeper dry dirt & rocks where traction was loose. I would be making slow forward progress, but the rear would be hopping. I have a manual transmission, so putting it in a lower gear stops the hopping, but then I loose forward momentum through the snow. In my jeeps, the hopping usually happens when I'm on a steep climb on large boulders where I have alot of traction but am giving maybe too much throttle. I've never really driven in snow before, and I'm not used to such a long vehicle, so maybe this is normal? If not, Is there something I can do to reduce the hopping?

Thanks for any input I do have brand new shocks on the truck.

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Not really a need for a stabilizer on these trucks unless you are running huge tires. I haven't had one ever and its been fine without. Get the tires looked at as my 1999 drives smooth as butter and straight down roads. Get the tire balance checked.

Regarding rear end hop its just the way the truck is.... You've got the huge heavy front end and without any weight in the bed the rear tires are gonna hop. It does it on flat ground in deep snow for me with a shortbed extra cab for crying out loud lol. Not much you can do to stop the hopping without lots of weight or reduced wheel speed etc.


These trucks cannot be compared to much less than a street legal tow truck lol. Granted I've taken mine where it shouldn't have been to pull out some 4runners on light trails but that wasn't fun. I have an 84 4runner for the real trails but the superduty does alright just heavy.


If you have a 4 dr long bed the hop while driving down the highway is near unavoidable without traction bars, or few hundred pounds in the bed. I had a 2004 f350 4dr long bed that I drove daily for years and over this bridge/highways in CA I would feel the bounce and just kind of ignored it because I had no desire or need for traction bars or a custom frame brace some have used etc.

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Thanks for the reply :-) The truck is single cab, long bed, with 315/70/17 tires. 2" spacer blocks and adjustable track bar up front, but otherwise stock.

I'll take the wheels to the shop and have them balance them again.

I will be getting a larger tool box in the bed soon, and will be keeping more tools back there for trips, maybe the extra weight will help :-)

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Traction bars will help with axle hop.

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I've always had a steering stabilizer on my truck, so I donno, not sure I'd recommend just going without it though...

I mean Ford doesn't waste money putting parts on trucks you actually are never going benefit from having (plus they're pretty cheap)
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I've always had a steering stabilizer on my truck, so I donno, not sure I'd recommend just going without it though...

I mean Ford doesn't waste money putting parts on trucks you actually are never going benefit from having (plus they're pretty cheap)
Hah, yea I notice a few things missing from the truck that I would expect to be there, like the cabin air filter.... there isn't one!


That's what I was thinking, I've never owned a vehicle with a solid front axle that didn't have a stabilizer. I'll probably put one on.

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I've always had a steering stabilizer on my truck, so I donno, not sure I'd recommend just going without it though...

I mean Ford doesn't waste money putting parts on trucks you actually are never going benefit from having (plus they're pretty cheap) <img src="https://www.powerstroke.org/forum/images/smilies/wink[3].gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink[3]" class="inlineimg" />
Hah, yea I notice a few things missing from the truck that I would expect to be there, like the cabin air filter.... there isn't one! <img src="https://www.powerstroke.org/forum/images/Powerstroke_org_2015/smilies/tango_face_plain.png" border="0" alt="" title="Serious" class="inlineimg" /> <img src="https://www.powerstroke.org/forum/images/Powerstroke_org_2015/smilies/tango_face_grin.png" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />


That's what I was thinking, I've never owned a vehicle with a solid front axle that didn't have a stabilizer. I'll probably put one on.

The 99-07 don’t have one/ no filter available etc. There is an aftermarket kit from a company called cabfresh but there isn’t much info I could find. Didn’t seem to sell to many but they are in eBay still.

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The 99-07 don’t have one/ no filter available etc. There is an aftermarket kit from a company called cabfresh but there isn’t much info I could find. Didn’t seem to sell to many but they are in eBay still.
I did order one, I do a fair amount of driving in the desert when I'm on trips, and wouldn't mind filtering out some of the dust.

Incase anyone is interested, I got if from here: FITS: FORD SUPER DUTY PICKUPS 1997-2007 ? PART NO. 19200 | Cabfresh Filter Company www.cabfreshfiltercompany.com

can't order online, just call them up.

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I did order one, I do a fair amount of driving in the desert when I'm on trips, and wouldn't mind filtering out some of the dust.

Incase anyone is interested, I got if from here: FITS: FORD SUPER DUTY PICKUPS 1997-2007 ? PART NO. 19200 | Cabfresh Filter Company Cabfresh Filter Company | Your Source for Quality Cab Air Filters

can't order online, just call them up.
If you would send me a pm or post back up here to let us know how it goes/quality etc. I have bad allergies so im wondering if this would have even a remote affect etc. I looked them up and have already made all the lifestyle changes that have made a big difference but if this seems like it would work at all its worth it to me etc.

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If you would send me a pm or post back up here to let us know how it goes/quality etc. I have bad allergies so im wondering if this would have even a remote affect etc. I looked them up and have already made all the lifestyle changes that have made a big difference but if this seems like it would work at all its worth it to me etc.
I don't really have allergies except for spring time (which allergy medicine almost completely takes care of), so I won't be able to comment on that. But I'll take some photos of the filter and housing, and let you know how it fits

I believe they mentioned on the phone that the filter has a charcoal element to it, but I imagine if you had some better filtration material you could sandwich it in there as well.

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