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post #1 of 248 Old 01-13-2019, 11:39 PM Thread Starter
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Why the hell would anyone get a new truck?

I just got to talking with a buddy tonight about buying new cars. He's wonder struck with the idea of buying the next GT500, even though he has a wife and 3 kids, and a practically new IMO 2016 Mustang GT. I don't get caught up in new cars with the awestruck desire he seems to. I started thinking what I'd even be interested in were I to consider going to anything new. Started thinking about trucks... Lost 2-3 hours to it, lol!

So, I just spent about 2-3 hours looking at newer truck wondering in sheer amazement how people pay what they do for a product that has only gone downhill since the last 7.3 rolled off the line in MY'03. You know, I've thought that if I ever do wear this thing out, as hard pressed as that would be and just had to go for something new, what would I go for? I spent time reading about reliability comparisons with the 7.3 and the 6.7. Dealing with DEF, failing turbos up through '14, people unable to get to anything on the motor without lifting the cab off the frame, etc... What is it with people? When did a truck stop being a truck? In all these comparison threads with older trucks, people just go on and on about creature comforts and power. Just for the point of this post, I priced what it would take to get a modern replacement for my F250. A new F250 with the 6.7 and all of the things I have on my truck from the factory would MSRP at $54k. By the way, if I really went to a new truck, I'm sorry to say that I know I'd end up with the 6.2 Gasser, instead. Funny thing is, I'm not convinced I'd get more mileage out of a new 6.2 than I still will out of my 180k mile 7.3!

What would I want? Reliability, Economy (low operating costs), Value. Creature comforts? Sure if they're free. I feel pretty comfy with cash in my bank account. ha! Power? I've never felt like I was worried about going up the next hill pulling GCWR of 20k lbs, but sure I'll take it if it doesn't ruin my fuel economy/reliability.

The more I got into it, the more absolutely thrilled I am that I have a total of ~$10k into mine, and would drive across the country in it (again) at the drop of a hat.

Question for you: If you had to take a brand new truck at current market value with all bells and whistles OR instead you could get a "brand new" 7.3 just as though it rolled off the factory line at their price adjusted for inflation, which would you go for? Are new trucks really better as trucks?

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It’s the same reason why people drop in a 15k 7.3 motor. It’s the L nut. We guys are simple and turds at the same time. If you have money sure wth not.


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Well...you don't see "help, my truck won't start in the cold" or "having hard cold start issues" in the 6.7 sections do you? So, IMO that's one of the good benefits of having a newer truck.

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Can’t speak for others, but I’m more than happy with my 7.3. No need for a $600-700/mo payment.


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Question for you: If you had to take a brand new truck at current market value with all bells and whistles OR instead you could get a "brand new" 7.3 just as though it rolled off the factory line at their price adjusted for inflation, which would you go for? Are new trucks really better as trucks?
Yes, the new trucks are better in almost every way. There's quantitative data to back this up (payload, power, maintenance intervals, etc..)

The only exceptions would be emissions controls and everything being complex and crammed in there because it has to work with emissions controls. And don't forget about bean counters relentlessly cheapening parts and adding plastic junk everywhere to save a few fractions of a cent while every year price goes up for us consumers. That's true with everything, not just Ford diesels.

I have a brand new 2019 6.7 but if I could get a brand new 7.3, I would choose it.

Emissions controls and all their unnecessary components and potential issues they can cause is enough for me to do without all the latest "creature comforts." I would also be sacrificing power, payload, overall performance, etc..but it would be nice to have the ability to make that choice.

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Most that complain about price must not know what their 7.3 cost new....


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I'm very happy with my truck. Its reliable and "fast" plus its cheap. It gets me from a to b and i never have to worry about. But, a new 6.7 will to, while massaging your back in cooled seats. If you can afford it, go buy it, if not, don't. Pretty simple.

Also pretty easy to look like you can afford even if you have a 535 fico score. get that 17.95% 84 month loan and bam, you can ball in your platinum.

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modern convenience of the newer trucks (any brand gas or diesel) is leaps and bounds ahead of any brand made 20 years ago. but that comes with technology advancements.

just like comparing a 7.3 powerstroke to a 7.3/6.9 idi.

I sold my e99 few years back to get into a 07.5 ram, I don't reget the upgrade 1 bit. I'm still a 7.3 fan, we've got 2 on the farm that will slowly get the job done. But i'll gladly take a newer gas truck with 200K miles than a 7.3 with 100K miles
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Capitalism is the only legitimate form of government but it is used and abused in this country. I sell campers like I've said before. Sadly, you can get a loan for 18% fro 12 years on a $20,000 camper with a 550 credit score. You missed your last 3 months of car payments but lets go look at a camper. Its extremely easy to look the part in the US because all it requires is a tiny little piece of plastic with 16 digits.

I don't believe in any other way but i do believe that another collapse is coming because no one in this country saves their money.

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