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It's important to note that, when switching from Green to ELC, you need to be sure you do a through flush to remove any of the old silica base coolant. They don't mix well and can react to form a gel in the system.
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It's important to note that, when switching from Green to ELC, you need to be sure you do a through flush to remove any of the old silica base coolant. They don't mix well and can react to form a gel in the system.
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More than ELC, look for the Cat EC-1 spec. Can boil it down to Cat, Rotella, Texaco, and Chevron. Also a good idea to find one and stick with it, they say you can mix some but it's probably not a good idea unless it's an emergency. And make sure you use distilled water.

Zerex has silicates so the 6.0/6.4 should avoid that one, prolly OK in a 7.3 but why?

I still have green with additive in my 2000 but I'll be going with Rotella soon. Also running green in my IDI and all my farm equipment, I know the early 7.3's don't like ELC but for my 2000 and your 02 it's fine.
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It's important to note that, when switching from Green to ELC, you need to be sure you do a through flush to remove any of the old silica base coolant. They don't mix well and can react to form a gel in the system.
I READ A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT POSTS ABOUT CHANGING THE COOLANT.....

SO.....IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.....I NEED TO DRAIN THE SYSTEM.....REMOVE THE ENGINE DRAIN PLUGS ON THE SIDE OF THE BLOCK.....FLUSH WITH PLENTY OF CLEAN WATER.....

THEN.....RE-INSTALL THE DRAIN PLUGS IN THE BLOCK.....AND THEN ADD 4 GALLONS OF CONCENTRATED COOLANT AND 4 GALLONS OF DISTILLED WATER.....PUTTING IN HALF COOLANT AND HALF WATER TO ACHIEVE A 50/50 MIX.....

RUN THE TRUCK AND THE HEATING SYSTEM UNTIL OPERATING TEMPERATURE IS REACHED.....THEN RE-CHECK THE COOLANT LEVEL A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES.....AND I AM DONE FOR A FEW THOUSAND MILES.....

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT I LEFT OUT?....

ONE OTHER THING.....IS A COOLANT FILTER NEEDED ON A 7.3.....OR IS IT JUST AN EXTRA PRECAUTION THAT SOME OWNERS CHOOSE?....
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Follow this procedure best description there is

Coolant changing instructions... - Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com

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GOT IT.....THANKS.....

I GUESS THAT I WILL BE INVESTING IN A LOT OF DISTILLED WATER.....
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@GETFURIOUS You can flush with a hose, you just have to fill N drain enough times with distilled to get the hose water out before adding coolant. If the block plugs are the same size as a 6.0 you can put Fumoto (or EZ) F108N valves in the block to make draining easy. Then you'll only have to pull the starter once. (the EZ 108 can be had with an L shaped nipple, someone said it fits behind the starter better) I just used Fumoto's on my 6.0 ( EZ Engine Oil Drain Valve EZ-108(16mm-1.5) & L-Shaped Hose End L-001 COMBO PACK | eBay ) Then a 3/8" length of hose makes draining the block much cleaner.
A filter won't hurt but it's not as important on a 7.3 as it is on the 6.0 and 6.4. The oil cooler on the 7.3 has much bigger passages and is less prone to clogging.
And yes after the last drain, add 4 gallons of ELC then top off with distilled and you should be a little better than 50/50. Also if you get a $50 Air lift to fill with you prolly won't have any air pockets when you're done. I got one from fleabay like this...New Cooling System Vacuum Radiator Kit Refill & Purge Set Universal Auto Tools | eBay
Get a stock pile of your favorite beverage and plan on taking most of a day to do a proper job. Good luck, happy flushing

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So by late models you referring to 2002 and up? Just for my own curiosity was there a particular engine serial# when they switched over?
If I'm not mistaken there was a specific serial number cutoff as to which motors were green fill only and which ones were OK to use ELC. Supposedly there was a reason why older 7.3's couldn't use ELC but I remember running across people on other forums who did it anyway without apparent issue.

A 2002 is a late-late 7.3 so I would just flush that gold crap out of there and put a good HD ELC in there a probably never have to worry about it again. (300,000+ miles). CAT EC-1, Intl Fleetrite, Peak Final Charge, Shell Rotella, Mobil Delvac, Chevron Delo are common ones you'll find on the shelf. Most of them are cherry red. If you look on the back of the bottle and it says it meets the specs for CAT/Cummins/Detroit Diesel/Navistar/Mack/Volvo and others that's the stuff you want. The particular brand I don't think is too important. Not for a 7.3 anyway.
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If I'm not mistaken there was a specific serial number cutoff as to which motors were green fill only and which ones were OK to use ELC. .


First, what happened was that the older (pre-99's) had injector cup seals that turned out to be attacked by the ELC chemistry, so you needed to remain Green.

Next, this whole serial number thing isn't how it works for the change over. It was more about logistics at the assembly plants. They just used up what silica based coolant they had on hand and changed over to the ELC when it was gone. Consequently, higher volume truck lines made that change sooner than others (they reason the KY plant was one of the first and, I think started in the '01 production so All '02's from there were ELC).
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First, what happened was that the older (pre-99's) had injector cup seals that turned out to be attacked by the ELC chemistry, so you needed to remain Green.

Next, this whole serial number thing isn't how it works for the change over. It was more about logistics at the assembly plants. They just used up what silica based coolant they had on hand and changed over to the ELC when it was gone. Consequently, higher volume truck lines made that change sooner than others (they reason the KY plant was one of the first and, I think started in the '01 production so All '02's from there were ELC).
Now obviously I have no way of verifying any of this for accuracy but this guy goes pretty deep into the weeds on 7.3 PSD coolant around the 4-5 minute mark. I'd assume what you say is correct also...that green conventional coolant ended up in some ELC compatible engine S/N's just because they were using up the last of it. FWIW my truck's engine S/N is 928,797 making it a L99 engine with (supposedly) non-ELC compatible injector cups seals. If you look closely there appear to be ~43,000-44,000 engines that fell into that weird little gap.

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