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Long story short one of our shop trucks a 2000 F-350 needed a new oil pan and gasket. The shop we sent it to Instead of pulling the engine and replacing, they torched out a section of the cross member and did the repair that way. Is there any way to repair there screw up.

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WTF, a "shop" did this?

To repair you would need to pull the motor and find a replacement cross-member or carefully cut one out of a donor rig and weld in.

Not seeing what they cut you may be able to patch it up?

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Yes.
Find the mechanic who operated the torch. Yell at him and call him a [email protected]$$
Find the manager whose "in charge". Yell at him and call him a [email protected]$$

Demand they install a whole new crossmember or file a suite against them for destruction to property

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+1 you CAN do this....SHOULD you? NFW.

Have them replace it and if they don't, small claims here you come...
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I wouldn't let them touch it again and I would have them pay to repair it. Correctly. Along with reseal ing the pan again. The cross member is rivited in.

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Did they weld it back in? If so, it's kind of fine. This is a valid way some people choose to replace the oil pan. At the end of the day, it's probably fine to do it this way (if you can get the pan gasket to seal correctly, which is a big IF).

If they didn't replace it and just cut it out, then they need to properly weld one back in. Unfortunately in most states, you cannot just go to another place and bill this one for the repair; they need to be given the chance to fix it first.

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Did they weld it back in? If so, it's kind of fine. This is a valid way some people choose to replace the oil pan.

There is No Way butchering the crossmember by torching it and rewelding what you took out is Ever a "Valid" way to do an oil pan. If they weren't such butchers they would have dropped the transmission crossmember, jacked the engine into the tunnel after unbolting the mounts, and lowered the pan enough to unbolt the Oil Pick-up and slide the pan down.

And even That isn't really a "Valid" way either unless you can find a good Pan Gasket (many users of Moroso's new gasket say they've experienced leaks so. I'm not sure it's a good method yet )

There's a Lot of weight on that crossmember, you completely change the metallurgy when melting so much of it by cutting/welding...
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Well there is another way.... My buddy built a f-550 tow rig and had one with a cut cross member. What he did was box in the C where that cross member was and bolted in a new one. That way if he had to get to the bottom side he could just unbolt it. Ford should of did this in the first place. Would I trust this shop doing it tho..... NOPE.

What you can do is take the truck to another shop to do the repair work and send the other shop the bill for what it cost to fix.

Depending on which state you are in will depend on how you have to attack this. As said above some states you have to give a shop up to 3 attempts to make it right before taking it somewhere else and having them get the bill.
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The front section of the frame is available as a separate assembly from the rear section. I'd make the shop replace the entire front frame assembly. Otherwise, it'll never truly be SAFE again.
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