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New head bolts, whcich?

My block and heads are at the machinist. I'm getting new head bolts, which? Not going Arp, it's not a Viagra truck. OEM/IH?

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ha, not a Viagra truck, thats a new one.

Why not ARP? cost?

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OK, thanks for the info. To show my ignorance, what is the problem with 3 nipples...
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Over kill and coast. Max boost is ~37 and that is very rare.
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Go ARP and sleep better at night knowing you went overkill and not cheapo chinese ebay knock offs
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Go ARP and sleep better at night knowing you went overkill and not cheapo chinese ebay knock offs
You obviously didn't read all of my original post or didn't comprehend it?
AND people who are habitually assuming and opinionated; lose credibility quickly.

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You are in a public forum asking for an opinion. Take it or log off and sign in to ebay, buy cheap then come crawling back here when you break something.
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As someone that has been a engine builder for more years than I want to admit it is of my opinion the Arp bolts are well worth it. Keep in mind that the original design of these engines only ever saw about 18lbs of boost. Even if you only occasionally see 37 lbs of boost you are doubling the boost pressure over stock. The oem head bolts where not designed for that kind of cylinder pressures and the Arp bolts are. Knowing that the Arp bolts will keep the heads gaskets from leaking is well worth it.
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An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
I hate paying $400.00 for a driveshaft that in times past anyone could rebuild for $50.00. The price that we pay for vehicles today is sad considering that we have plastic, yellowing headlights, non greasable parts etc, etc. But it is what it is. The price we pay for owning a beast.


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I did some more research; both Ford and IH used Mahle bolts. I made some calls. 36 are on the way.

At first I was going to reuse the old bolts. I measured them and they are in specifications. But, I'm running a little more boost. Even though, the old bolts lasted three years and the sky did not fall.

IMO: Anyone can over build and have it work. It takes a smart person to build it strong enough, within economic constraints and not waste resources. It's called engineering.

I just happen to have two pieces of paper that claim I know something. They allowed me to retire at 55 and waste money on a diesel.

What I have learned from this thread is that head bolt discussion is similar to HPOPs, filters, additives, oil, tires, religion, politics and etc... For me, it's facts and data over ideology. It's who I am and I mean no disrespect to anyone here.

I hope everyone has a good weekend.

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No disrespect taken and no one here means any harm. I tell engineers at multi-biillion dollar companies why they screwed up and have to tell them to read the data sheet and drawings AGAIN so they don't break stuff for the 2nd, 3rd time etc.

I irritate people all the time so don't worry
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