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REGEN is the DPF Regeneration cycle where it burns particulate out of the DPF on 20808 6.4L- 2019 6.7L trucks.

Are you talking the VGT relearn where its pegged at 15 or 85%.... it took me a few miles for the truck to run like dog **** after i did mine and then was fine.
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Yeah nothing to regen on the older trucks -- the "newer" EPA infested trucks have a Diesel Particulate Filter to catch the soot in the exhaust that needs to be burned out periodically

The VGT cycling could be from a later tune in the PCM -- that is used to keep the vanes from sticking -- this cycling only happens at idle tho after the truck has idled for a while.
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REGEN is the DPF Regeneration cycle where it burns particulate out of the DPF on 20808 6.4L- 2019 6.7L trucks.

Are you talking the VGT relearn where its pegged at 15 or 85%.... it took me a few miles for the truck to run like dog **** after i did mine and then was fine.


Yes, vgt relearn. I cleared my p132b code I had yesterday and let it idle for 5 -7min. I could see on my edge monitor it was running through the cycle. I didnt watch it the whole time. When I checked back it was steady at about 67%. I shut the truck off and then drove it to work and back this morning. It ran fine but sitting at a light, I noticed it trying to relearn again. So maybe it never finished?
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Yeah nothing to regen on the older trucks -- the "newer" EPA infested trucks have a Diesel Particulate Filter to catch the soot in the exhaust that needs to be burned out periodically

The VGT cycling could be from a later tune in the PCM -- that is used to keep the vanes from sticking -- this cycling only happens at idle tho after the truck has idled for a while.


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How often should I see it doing this? Seems pretty frequent to me. And does that mean the 150-200mile interval is also not meant for the 6.0?
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umm... i would just drive it and pack on the miles to see where you are in say a tank of diesel. It took me a good bit of driving to "be fine" after i pulled the valve covers off for dummy plugs etc. if u saw 67% then it kicked back.... make sure your connections are good and if so... let it fly but keep an eye on it.

I dont have exact numbers for you, just my few experiences with doing it.

200 mile? isnt that for the REGENs for the DPF? i dont own one so im not exact on that. if so then no not for our trucks. Thats why everyone is scratching their heads?


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The only thing I can think is maybe I didnt complete the cycle right. Like it runs the cycle 6 times, then holds steady. I didnt drive it until the following morning. Should that have been done right after?
Found this procedure - maybe it will help (I'm no expert - YMMV)

VGT learn procedure

1. Drive the truck until the engine and transmission have reached normal operating temperature.
(The VGT learn procedure requires that the oil and coolant temperatures be at normal operating temperature)

2. Flash truck back to stock (Only need to do this if running a tuner or module)

3. Turn on the headlights

4. Disconnect both batteries

5. Short out + to - battery cables to each other (Make sure both batteries are disconnected before doing this).

6. Let truck sit like this for 10-minutes

7. Turn off the headlights.

8. Re-connect batteries

9. Cycle the key to the run position twice. Pause in the “ON” position each time until the wait to start lamp goes out (minimum 5-seconds) and pause in the “OFF” position each time for 10-seconds to be sure the PCM has "gone to sleep".

10. Start the truck and let it idle for a minimum of 5-minutes at normal operating temperature. This allows the PCM to learn the EGR valve closed position value. Also you will likely hear the turbo pitch change several times during this period as the PCM learns the necessary duty cycles for accurate VGT control.

11. Complete the road test Drive Cycle:
15 miles of mixed driving (*should* be enough in most cases) to allow the PCM to "re-learn" its adaptive strategy.

Note: Anytime the batteries are disconnected, the PCM will throw the P1000 code until the “Drive Cycle” is completed.


As for the Tow/Haul mode, the transmission must re-learn your driving style and loads hauled again as this was cleared when the truck was re-flashed.
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How often should I see it doing this? Seems pretty frequent to me. And does that mean the 150-200mile interval is also not meant for the 6.0?
I've never heard my turbo sweep. Ever. ...but I have a late '04. The '03s and early '04s sweep on startup.

The 150-200 mile interval thing that you read was likely refering to regen cycles on a 6.4. Hard to say where the internet took you.

If your issue is that you are watching the VGT% and it is swinging between 15-85%, that's what is does by design. You do have a P132b, though.

P132B can be set by 3 methods (from DTL):
  1. MAP (boost) levels. (P132B_STK)
  2. Continuous boost monitor checks boost vs. VGT_DC. (P132B_CM)
  3. Excessive number of learn cycles (P132B_VAR)

You are probably getting yours from #3.

The DTL doc says you need to perform pinpoint test KA. I'll attach that. I'll also attach the DTL doc describing the turbo and VGT, a separate turbo description document, and a NAPA turbo diagnostic guide that's quite nice.
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File Type: pdf Ford DTL - 6L Inferred EBP for 2003 and early 2004 P132b.pdf (204.3 KB, 6 views)
File Type: pdf Ford DTL - 6L Air Management System Diagnosis - Turbo subsystem.pdf (739.8 KB, 8 views)
File Type: pdf NAPA 6L POWERSTROKE VGT TURBO TESTING.pdf (1.87 MB, 12 views)
File Type: pdf Pinpoint Test KA - Turbo Charger System Performance.pdf (84.1 KB, 9 views)
File Type: pdf Tech Turbo Guide for the 6.0L Power Stroke Engine.pdf (917.0 KB, 8 views)
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