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post #11 of 21 Old 01-14-2017, 12:39 PM
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I think you need to use twice as much anti gel, as what you are using. It's not going to
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I am not sure but do our trucks have a fuel heater? If they do maybe yours isn't working? Does the howes have anti gel? Did you try Diesel 911 in the red bottle?
I'm not sure about the fuel heater, I remember reading that the earlier years did have one though and when you replace your fuel pump you have to replace the wiring too because the new pumps don't have one. Someone else probably knows more about it though.
Also, yes the Howes is an anti-gel additive, and I ran a whole bottle of the Diesel 911 through the tank and filters when I ungelled it the first time.
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Also today I took both my batteries to Autozone to have them charged because they were starting to slow down due to me cranking it over and trying to get it to start. I got them back, threw them in and it started right up. I drove down the street and less than 2 minutes later it stalled on me and wouldn't start. I took off the cap and filter of the 2nd fuel filter and didn't see any fuel in the bowl. I cycled the key a couple of times and fuel slowly trickled in.
My current guess is when I installed the 1st fuel filter I didn't do it correctly or something and I'm getting air in the system. Or my fuel pump is going bad. Hopefully it's the first guess
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So it's been a few days of me messing with the truck and I'm still having no luck starting it. I took apart the first fuel filter again and re-lubed the O-ring and tightened it down to the correct specs. It didn't show any signs of leaking. I poured the rest of my diesel conditioner into the 2nd fuel filter (about 1 cup worth) along with what I had left of the diesel 911 (about half a cup). It seemed to drain down into the line. I'm still not getting any fuel to the 2nd filter. I've cycled the key about 5 times waiting 30 seconds between each one. I can hear the fuel pump (although it might sound a little weak and inconsistent, but I could be wrong).

With the key on engine off my:
Injection Control Pressure is at 0
ICP Duty Cycle is at 0.14
FICM Internal Volts is at 48.00
FICM Logic Power is at 11.50
Battery Voltage is 11.75 (The batteries are charging as I type)
Injection Pulse Width is at 0

With me turning the engine over:
Injection Control Pressure is at 2,000ish
ICP Duty Cycle is at 0.65ish
FICM Internal Volts is at 47.50
FICM Logic Power is at 10.50
Battery Voltage drops to around 8.0
Injection Pulse Width is around 3.60

With key on engine off after turning the engine over:
Injection Control Pressure is at 4.53
ICP Duty Cycle is back to 0.14
FICM Internal Volts is at 48.0
FICM Logic Power is at 11.00
Battery Voltage is at 11.31
Injection Pulse Width is at 3.39

The batteries are brand new (although have been recharged about 4 times), The filters are new and correctly installed, I have no check engine lights, and currently it doesn't sound like it's even trying to start when turning over. I tried unplugging the ICP (Apparently unplugging it makes it send a default code to the computer to where it'll start the truck if the ICP sensor is bad) and there was no change. My oil pressure gauge on the dash moves up while turning it over, oil level is where it should be at.
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So it's been a few days of me messing with the truck and I'm still having no luck starting it. I took apart the first fuel filter again and re-lubed the O-ring and tightened it down to the correct specs. It didn't show any signs of leaking. I poured the rest of my diesel conditioner into the 2nd fuel filter (about 1 cup worth) along with what I had left of the diesel 911 (about half a cup). It seemed to drain down into the line. I'm still not getting any fuel to the 2nd filter. I've cycled the key about 5 times waiting 30 seconds between each one. I can hear the fuel pump (although it might sound a little weak and inconsistent, but I could be wrong).

With the key on engine off my:
Injection Control Pressure is at 0
ICP Duty Cycle is at 0.14
FICM Internal Volts is at 48.00
FICM Logic Power is at 11.50
Battery Voltage is 11.75 (The batteries are charging as I type)
Injection Pulse Width is at 0

With me turning the engine over:
Injection Control Pressure is at 2,000ish
ICP Duty Cycle is at 0.65ish
FICM Internal Volts is at 47.50
FICM Logic Power is at 10.50
Battery Voltage drops to around 8.0
Injection Pulse Width is around 3.60

With key on engine off after turning the engine over:
Injection Control Pressure is at 4.53
ICP Duty Cycle is back to 0.14
FICM Internal Volts is at 48.0
FICM Logic Power is at 11.00
Battery Voltage is at 11.31
Injection Pulse Width is at 3.39

The batteries are brand new (although have been recharged about 4 times), The filters are new and correctly installed, I have no check engine lights, and currently it doesn't sound like it's even trying to start when turning over. I tried unplugging the ICP (Apparently unplugging it makes it send a default code to the computer to where it'll start the truck if the ICP sensor is bad) and there was no change. My oil pressure gauge on the dash moves up while turning it over, oil level is where it should be at.
Those batteries need to be charged more. Put the truck on a starter while cranking. Batteries should never go below 10v while cranking you will kill the FICM. It seems your pump may be on the way out?

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Right now the truck is in a parking lot with no way of hooking it up to anything. I can hook it up to another vehicle while trying to start it once I get the batteries back from Autozone.
Is there a way to test the fuel pump?
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Right now the truck is in a parking lot with no way of hooking it up to anything. I can hook it up to another vehicle while trying to start it once I get the batteries back from Autozone.
Is there a way to test the fuel pump?
Maybe get a jumper box? Also you can try and put a fuel pressure gauge on it.

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If you have a charger at home take them home and charge the batteries. Also you said you had the 2nd fuel filter cap off and cycled the key and no fuel filled it? But you dumped diesel 911 in the fuel bowl and it goes down? If in a day no fuel fills the bowl then i would say its safe to assume you have a pump problem. What is the temp where you are?

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I just got both my batteries replaced by Autozone because they were under warranty. I also filled the fuel bowl with diesel fuel until it was full. Cycled the key a couple of times and then put the filter and cap back on it. After a couple of cranks it fired right up and I'm going to let it idle for a while to see if it'll just drink what I put in the bowl or if it's feeding itself.
Also, the temps here have been around -5ish at night and 20ish in the daytime.
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As a closure to this thread I ended up filling up the fuel bowl with fuel, drove it around until it died, and kept doing that until it stopped dying. So far it's been starting up and driving fine for the past couple of weeks, so I'm assuming it wasgelled up in the lines like you guys said it was.
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