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when i lift my truck im not sure which tire im going to go with. i love the look of the nitto mud grappler but hate you get 35k miles out of it. does the toyo mt have more lift then the nittos?
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when i lift my truck im not sure which tire im going to go with. i love the look of the nitto mud grappler but hate you get 35k miles out of it. does the toyo mt have more lift then the nittos?
mud grapplers ??????? those things are awful lol. I rode in a buddies dodge and im not sure what was worse the sound or the vibration at low speed. i will never own anything more aggressive that the trail graps
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I saw the Toyo ATIIs at 4WheelParts the other day and they looked pretty cool. I would run them if they made a bigger size.
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mud grapplers ??????? those things are awful lol. I rode in a buddies dodge and im not sure what was worse the sound or the vibration at low speed. i will never own anything more aggressive that the trail graps
mine doesnt vibrate really. and i like the noise, it helps me tune out my gf when she is yapping lol i just wished they last longer.
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Lasted longer then her yapping
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a womens yapping will be heard over anything. these tires just tone it down a little bit. there is no sure for that yet.
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AT2 Review

I have purchased a set of these to replace my worn out Revo 2’s so I’ll toss my 2 cents into the fray. They were purchased from a local tire company called Belle Tire, great place, great service and always seem to be honest. The Tech ordered both the AT1 and AT2’s for me so I could make a side by side comparison between the two tires. The AT 1 seemed, at least to my eye, to be a little taller, and wider than the newer AT2’s. This was off the rims ect. So take that for what it’s worth. The AT2s are certainly more aggressive than the AT1’s, nice sidewall’s and deep tread pattern and I really liked the look. The AT2’s also felt much softer than the AT1’s. Now I didn’t use any fancy meters to test the rubber hardness, just my 10 digits but there was a definite difference; the AT1’s were much harder to the touch. I was leaning towards the AT2s but I hadn’t gotten the final damage report (cost) from the Belle Tire Tech yet. Much to my surprise, the AT2’s were actually cheaper than the AT1’s! That sealed the deal and a shiny new set of 285/70/17’s were on the way!

Now, I had a right side tie rod that was bad, ( knew this coming in, it was more of a test to see if they would find it, and only it, to fix…they passed) and they fixed that along with an alignment. The AT2’s looked GREAT on my truck and I really was looking forward to getting them out for a test drive.

Once on the road, it was…a disappointment. At low speeds, < 45mph, on dry pavement and dry dirt roads, the tires are great. They offer a load of grip and seem to be very sure-footed. However, above 45/50mph it was like having a roller skate attached to all 4 corners. At highway/freeway speeds they proved to be a bit scary. Now I drove them in calm and windy conditions, drove them for a couple hundred miles this past weekend thinking that they might just need to be broken in a bit and that didn’t change the handling much at all. This morning, we had a lot of rain, so I was able to test them out in the wet too and it was more of the same, my truck was very squirrely once above 45/50mph.

I did not take them off road at all so I can’t offer any review of that performance.

So, there’s my review, your mileage may vary. The AT2’s are coming off this afternoon and a set of AT1’s are going on instead. Hopefully I will not experience the same thing with the next set. I am disappointed though, I really liked the look of the AT2’s, but I spend a lot of time on the road and it can’t be a dance the whole time.

Edit: I put some photos in a photo album if you'd like to see them on on truck.

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I have purchased a set of these to replace my worn out Revo 2ís so Iíll toss my 2 cents into the fray. They were purchased from a local tire company called Belle Tire, great place, great service and always seem to be honest. The Tech ordered both the AT1 and AT2ís for me so I could make a side by side comparison between the two tires. The AT 1 seemed, at least to my eye, to be a little taller, and wider than the newer AT2ís. This was off the rims ect. So take that for what itís worth. The AT2s are certainly more aggressive than the AT1ís, nice sidewallís and deep tread pattern and I really liked the look. The AT2ís also felt much softer than the AT1ís. Now I didnít use any fancy meters to test the rubber hardness, just my 10 digits but there was a definite difference; the AT1ís were much harder to the touch. I was leaning towards the AT2s but I hadnít gotten the final damage report (cost) from the Belle Tire Tech yet. Much to my surprise, the AT2ís were actually cheaper than the AT1ís! That sealed the deal and a shiny new set of 285/70/17ís were on the way!

Now, I had a right side tie rod that was bad, ( knew this coming in, it was more of a test to see if they would find it, and only it, to fixÖthey passed) and they fixed that along with an alignment. The AT2ís looked GREAT on my truck and I really was looking forward to getting them out for a test drive.

Once on the road, it wasÖa disappointment. At low speeds, < 45mph, on dry pavement and dry dirt roads, the tires are great. They offer a load of grip and seem to be very sure-footed. However, above 45/50mph it was like having a roller skate attached to all 4 corners. At highway/freeway speeds they proved to be a bit scary. Now I drove them in calm and windy conditions, drove them for a couple hundred miles this past weekend thinking that they might just need to be broken in a bit and that didnít change the handling much at all. This morning, we had a lot of rain, so I was able to test them out in the wet too and it was more of the same, my truck was very squirrely once above 45/50mph.

I did not take them off road at all so I canít offer any review of that performance.

So, thereís my review, your mileage may vary. The AT2ís are coming off this afternoon and a set of AT1ís are going on instead. Hopefully I will not experience the same thing with the next set. I am disappointed though, I really liked the look of the AT2ís, but I spend a lot of time on the road and it canít be a dance the whole time.

Edit: I put some photos in a photo album if you'd like to see them on on truck.
Interesting that my experience with the AT 2 is 100% opposite from yours. I still really like mine.
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I have purchased a set of these to replace my worn out Revo 2ís so Iíll toss my 2 cents into the fray. They were purchased from a local tire company called Belle Tire, great place, great service and always seem to be honest. The Tech ordered both the AT1 and AT2ís for me so I could make a side by side comparison between the two tires. The AT 1 seemed, at least to my eye, to be a little taller, and wider than the newer AT2ís. This was off the rims ect. So take that for what itís worth. The AT2s are certainly more aggressive than the AT1ís, nice sidewallís and deep tread pattern and I really liked the look. The AT2ís also felt much softer than the AT1ís. Now I didnít use any fancy meters to test the rubber hardness, just my 10 digits but there was a definite difference; the AT1ís were much harder to the touch. I was leaning towards the AT2s but I hadnít gotten the final damage report (cost) from the Belle Tire Tech yet. Much to my surprise, the AT2ís were actually cheaper than the AT1ís! That sealed the deal and a shiny new set of 285/70/17ís were on the way!

Now, I had a right side tie rod that was bad, ( knew this coming in, it was more of a test to see if they would find it, and only it, to fixÖthey passed) and they fixed that along with an alignment. The AT2ís looked GREAT on my truck and I really was looking forward to getting them out for a test drive.

Once on the road, it wasÖa disappointment. At low speeds, < 45mph, on dry pavement and dry dirt roads, the tires are great. They offer a load of grip and seem to be very sure-footed. However, above 45/50mph it was like having a roller skate attached to all 4 corners. At highway/freeway speeds they proved to be a bit scary. Now I drove them in calm and windy conditions, drove them for a couple hundred miles this past weekend thinking that they might just need to be broken in a bit and that didnít change the handling much at all. This morning, we had a lot of rain, so I was able to test them out in the wet too and it was more of the same, my truck was very squirrely once above 45/50mph.

I did not take them off road at all so I canít offer any review of that performance.

So, thereís my review, your mileage may vary. The AT2ís are coming off this afternoon and a set of AT1ís are going on instead. Hopefully I will not experience the same thing with the next set. I am disappointed though, I really liked the look of the AT2ís, but I spend a lot of time on the road and it canít be a dance the whole time.

Edit: I put some photos in a photo album if you'd like to see them on on truck.
Before you switch your new tires out, it's been my experience that all new tires are bit squirely for the first 500 miles or so. Since Toyo offers the "try them and then return them if not happy" policy, why not run them for a few hundred miles before deciding? Just a thought.....
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I love my 35"x12.50"x18" 10 ply Toyo OPAT ll They handle great in the dirt and rocks, its a little dry right now in AZ so i'll haven't tried them in the mud. Bought mine from A to Z tire in Albq. NM
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