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post #1 of 17 Old 12-31-2013, 04:37 PM Thread Starter
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Airbags that don't reduce ride quality and travel??

After my first heavily-loaded towing trip yesterday, I'm searching for a set of airbags. I'm very happy with the way the truck rides right now and I spend a lot of time off road for work and play. I've used Firestone air bags in the past, but the shorter "pancake" style bag doesn't have much range of motion. Is there anything else out there that will still help alleviate some of the sag when loaded heavy, but not degrade my nice ride quality or off-road suspension travel?

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After my first heavily-loaded towing trip yesterday, I'm searching for a set of airbags. I'm very happy with the way the truck rides right now and I spend a lot of time off road for work and play. I've used Firestone air bags in the past, but the shorter "pancake" style bag doesn't have much range of motion. Is there anything else out there that will still help alleviate some of the sag when loaded heavy, but not degrade my nice ride quality or off-road suspension travel?

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I went with Hellwig bags. They mount differently than the firestone and air lift bags, so the off-road capabilities are a bit better. I have flexed my truck pretty good a few times and the bags handle it great. I usually keep about 15lbs of air in the bags and the ride seems to actually be a bit better for my truck.


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chuck these on and travel won't be a problem nor will ripping a bag and not to mention having to unbolt the bag if your working on the suspension

Daystar's NEW Air Bag Cradle - YouTube

as far as bags I suggest the outboard mount that sits on the spring vs inside the spring and on the axle

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Nice road they are driving on Very cool cradle will keep that in mind!

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Thanks for the links and the suggestions. That Daystar deal looked pretty interesting and so do the Hellwig bags. I'll let you guys know what I end up doing.
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I've been looking at the Airlift Loadlifter 5000 Ultimate that has a jounce inside the bag to replace the one you removed when installing air ride which will let you air down the bags to basically 0 psi and not worry about bottoming out and pinching the bags and should give a good range of motion.

Actually, I'm purchasing these real soon and price point is pretty good. Autoanything.com has them for 336.42

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The Airlift bags and that Daystar locating cup/cradle might be a pretty slick combination.

Wasn't there a TSB out about the rear sag on the F250s? I thought I read something about Ford replacing the 2" blocks with 4" pieces for free. This sound familiar to anyone else?
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Just an update: I ended up going with the AirLift airbag kit and the Daystar airbag cradles. There was a problem, however. The normal amount of weight my truck carries (toolbox + transfer tank) had the bags packed down so far, the truck rode like crap. I ended up removing the lower airbag bracket and cutting off the bumpstop ear from the leaf spring block. I used a generic axle mount bracket to mount the Daystar cradle directly to the axle. Now, at static ride height, the bag floats about 1" above the cradle. The truck rides just like stock, but as soon as it starts to take on some load and squat down, the bags contact and take up the slack.
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I have firestone bags and the cradles what did you use to fill the whole on the bottom of the bag if I use the supplied bolt it will hit the bolt that mounts the craddle to the bracket

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