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Towing math help-GCVW

I am looking at moving up to a gooseneck race trailer behind my '06 f350 with 6.0/3.73 rear/SRW. My question relates to GCVW and actual weight. The trailer is rated to 18k but would probably being closer to 16k loaded. GCWR for my truck is 23000, max trailer weight is 15,700 (close enough). So the numbers work if I'm not at the max weight for the trailer. But what does the DOT look at, actual or potential load when they determine if you are legal?
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I would think that DOT would check both. Check the GCVW to make sure you aren't over the limit, such as needing a commercial drivers license or exceeding the weight restrictions for your state. Then check the actual weight to make sure you haven't exceeded your weight rating.

In Texas, for example, you'll need a commercial license if the GCVW is more than 26K pounds (assuming you are towing a tandem axle trailer). If your F350 has a 10K weight rating, adding in your 18K trailer would require you to have a commercial license in Texas.

At least that's my understanding. Anyone feel free to jump in here and correct me.
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I would think that DOT would check both. Check the GCVW to make sure you aren't over the limit, such as needing a commercial drivers license or exceeding the weight restrictions for your state. Then check the actual weight to make sure you haven't exceeded your weight rating.

In Texas, for example, you'll need a commercial license if the GCVW is more than 26K pounds (assuming you are towing a tandem axle trailer). If your F350 has a 10K weight rating, adding in your 18K trailer would require you to have a commercial license in Texas.

At least that's my understanding. Anyone feel free to jump in here and correct me.


are you using the vehicle for personal or Commercial use?

any vehicle over 10k gvwr and use for commercials use such as a business or etc is considered a commercial vehicle(green DOT Book)

anything over 26,000lbs requires a Class A license if it articulates, ex your truck and trailer

best bet is to load everything up and take it to a truck stop/ somewhere that has a certified scale and weight it , if you are running under 26k pounds and non commercial Dot isn't going to mess with you, but if you are over your GCWR and you get in a accident you could be held liable and open to a lawsuit.
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"Personal" use, hauling a race car but no prizes awarded (amateur). Long story why I know that's important. Would be registered in my name, not a company. Would be right at 23k actual, but "rated" weights are 2k over the listed GCWR. That would be 25k if you add the GVWR's for both. Im hearing then that its the actual rather than the "potential" weight for determining whether you are overweight or not. The 26k wouldnt enter into this situation.
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the gvwrs don't mean much,

the gcwr and axle ratings are going to be what matters


you need to go weight it and see how much weight is on the axles, if your over on both axle rating and gcwr you are opening yourself up to lawsuits if you get in a accident.
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