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Old 03-28-2013, 03:40 AM
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CDL Necessity/confusion?

I have called penndot (6x) in the past 3 days, and gotten 4 different answers out of those 6 calls. I've also called a local notary and have received conflicting answers there as well.

Either I am not explaining things correctly, or the individuals I have called simply don't know what they are talking about - I'm sure someone/multiple on here will have a correct answer.

I currently own a 2005 F350 6.0/Manual Transmission [drw], towing a 44 foot gooseneck with triple 7k axles; leaving a gross weight on the trailer of 21,000 (at max capacity)

My question is - Is a Class A CDL required?
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I have called penndot (6x) in the past 3 days, and gotten 4 different answers out of those 6 calls. I've also called a local notary and have received conflicting answers there as well.

Either I am not explaining things correctly, or the individuals I have called simply don't know what they are talking about - I'm sure someone/multiple on here will have a correct answer.

I currently own a 2005 F350 6.0/Manual Transmission [drw], towing a 44 foot gooseneck with triple 7k axles; leaving a gross weight on the trailer of 21,000 (at max capacity)

My question is - Is a Class A CDL required?
Yes it is.

21,000 GVWR (trailer) + ??,??? GVWR (truck) is 26,001 or greater inclusive of a trailer over 10k GVWR.

Obviously your trucks GVWR is north of 5k.

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CLASS A: A Class A license is issued to those persons 18 years of age or older who have demonstrated their qualifications to operate any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more, provided the gross vehicle weight rating of the vehicle or vehicles being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
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Combination vehicle (Group A)—Any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 11,794 kilograms or more (26,001 pounds or more) provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds).
Commercial motor vehicle groups. - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
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As long as your trailer is a gooseneck not a fith wheel you can have a restricted class a but u might as well get a full class a.


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As long as your trailer is a gooseneck not a fith wheel you can have a restricted class a but u might as well get a full class a.
WTF you talking about Willis.
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WTF you talking about Willis.
Just like I said it I got busted by dot for not having a full class a and towing a fith wheel trailer


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Just like I said it I got busted by dot for not having a full class a and towing a fith wheel trailer


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You should have explained yourself better.

What state are you in that has a 5th restriction? We don't have them here. A gooseneck or tag trailer can get you a full class A.

Since when is a gooseneck not considered a 5th as far a DL goes anyway?
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