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(CDL) Why do people think............

That you need a CDL for towing trailers over 10k GVWR?

That you have to have air brakes on a class A CDL?

That any vehicle that requires a class A will have air brakes?

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you must be very young if you haven't realized that people are f'n stupid
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Because lots of people go by what somebody they tells them. That somebody probably heard it from somebody who heard if from somebody who....... You get the idea.

People would rather believe that info than actually do any research of their own to find out the facts. If they did, they'd know the answers to the above is: YES!!!
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I remember taking an Air Brake Endorsement - does it even exist anymore? I see housewives driving 40ft Motor Homes with Air Brakes on their "C" license, I thought they did away with the whole "Air Brakes" issue...
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you must be very young if you haven't realized that people are f'n stupid
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I remember taking an Air Brake Endorsement - does it even exist anymore? I see housewives driving 40ft Motor Homes with Air Brakes on their "C" license, I thought they did away with the whole "Air Brakes" issue...
Nope. No air brake endorsement anymore. In the states.
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It's because it's different everywhere and the information is confusing. For instance when I lived in CA, class C was limited to 10k but could go up to 15k with a restriction 41. Basically a class C with the addition of a class A written test and only valid on RV's. They also offer a non commercial class A for heavy trailers. Texas actually pissed me off enough to keep my trailer registered in CA but that's a different issue.

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That you need a CDL for towing trailers over 10k GVWR?

That you have to have air brakes on a class A CDL?

That any vehicle that requires a class A will have air brakes?

Every state has some odd laws, some are inforced some are overlooked. We can tow doubles in Utah with a regular liscence. But I wouldn't cross state lines without checking the law for the state I am going into.

What I am saying is, some people think what they learned in California in the 70's applies to them in Georgia today.

I saw a guys reply that said "some people are stupid"

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When do I need a CDL?

1.A Class A CDL License is required when the Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Ratings (GCVWR) of the truck and trailer totals 26,001 or more provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
2.A Class B CDL License is required for any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.
3. A Class C CDL License is required for any single vehicle, or combination of vehicles, that does not meet the definition of Class A or Class B, but is either designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or is placarded for hazardous materials.
One of the most misunderstood parts of the above requirements has to do with trailers with a GVWR in excess of 10,000 pounds when the combined GVWR does not exceed 26,000 pounds. In this case a CDL is NOT required provided you are not placarded for hazardous materials. However individual states may impose a requirement that drivers in their states must have a CDL in this situation so you need to check the requirements in your state. It is also important to note that individual state CDL licensing requirements CAN NOT be applied to drivers from other states.

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It's because it's different everywhere and the information is confusing. For instance when I lived in CA, class C was limited to 10k but could go up to 15k with a restriction 41. Basically a class C with the addition of a class A written test and only valid on RV's. They also offer a non commercial class A for heavy trailers. Texas actually pissed me off enough to keep my trailer registered in CA but that's a different issue.
This isn't completely true! A class C will allow you to tow a 10000 gross weight tow behind or bump tow trailer. If it you are using a 5th wheel hitch, you are allowed 15000 gross weight. Everything changes when you go past the 26000 combined gross weight.
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I had to take get an airbrakes endorsement in utah. Dont know about other states but here there is an airbrake test and endorsement if you want to drive anything with them. You have to get it on your regular license if you own a private coach (big *** diesel pusher motorhome)with airbrakes, and are actually gonna move it.


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