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Old 06-15-2012, 07:44 PM
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heavy hauling

Im looking at hauling a load of scrap thats listed @ 20k lbs. The journey is just under 300 miles from GA to SC. My rig is an '06 350 drw cclb 2wd and im looking to pick up a gooseneck dump trailer rated for 25k it has tandem dually axles i believe its about 20" long.

Where can i find local laws on hauling a load of this weight? Id like to make it in 1 trip if possible. Am i crazy to try a load that heavy for that distance? What are your thoughts? I would probably stay off of the interstate as much as possible just to keep my speed down.
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I did some more reading on max weight and by the Fleet ford website the GCWR with 4.10 gears is 23,500lbs. Internet curb weight (i realize i need to weight the truck for actual numbers) says the truck weights 6,724lbs so by these figures my max 5th wheel trailer weight shouldnt be over 16,776lbs. Am i using the correct formula? If so i think the 20k is a little much for that long of a haul.
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If the load of scrap itself is 20K, without the trailer, you are going to need a bigger truck. (That would put you at an estimated 36K). If the trailer and scrap are 20K, you are still overloaded, and its a judgement call on your part.

There is zero chance anyone is going to consider a scrap load as personal, so you will also be required to have a CDL. As far as liability/DOT weights go, its registered GVW of truck (13K) + registered GVW of trailer (whatever it is) = GCVW, and if that figure is over 26K you need the CDL.

If it is a short trip, check with you local DMV website. If you are going to be crossing state lines, follow federal DOT regs as well.
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Thanks for the reply! Ill do some more reading to make sure my bases are covered and look for smaller loads.
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As far as liability/DOT weights go, its registered GVW of truck (13K) + registered GVW of trailer (whatever it is) = GCVW, and if that figure is over 26K you need the CDL.

If it is a short trip, check with you local DMV website. If you are going to be crossing state lines, follow federal DOT regs as well.
Actually this might be the only time I disagree with your reading of regs, from DOT book.
A commercial driver’s license (CDL) is required for anyone driving any of the
following sizes or types of vehicles.
 A single vehicle with a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) of more
than 26,000 pounds.
 A combination vehicle with a Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR) of
more than 26,000 pounds when the towed vehicle GVWR is over 10,000
pounds.
 A passenger vehicle has a seating capacity for 16 or more persons,
including the driver.
 A vehicle transports hazardous material in a quantity requiring a placard.

using his F250 it's GVWR is 10k or less, so as long has he has it registered for 13k or less and he weighs 26k or less he does not need a CDL.
Howerver his F350 would require a CDL.

In Iowa as long as it's farm related (including hauling junk) and your own truck, it is excluded from CDL liscensing requirements, even to drive a semi.

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In Iowa as long as it's farm related (including hauling junk) and your own truck, it is excluded from CDL liscensing requirements, even to drive a semi.
I believe in Idaho its within 175 miles though, for farm use or from farm to farm hauling, i should double check
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:48 PM
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I believe in Idaho its within 175 miles though, for farm use or from farm to farm hauling, i should double check
It's 150........
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As far as liability/DOT weights go, its registered GVW of truck (13K) + registered GVW of trailer (whatever it is) = GCVW, and if that figure is over 26K you need the CDL.
CDL requriements are not determined by registered weight.
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you need cdl. and if its for hire and u get caught. it wont be worth the fines...overweight. is only one. then its crossing state lines thats ifta. and no cdl. they will add up
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It's 150........
Nice, good thing to know for sure. Thanks!
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