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Weighed the truck, lighter than I thought

So I finally got around to getting my weight at the local CAT scales since I got a Gooseneck 4 horse+LQ trailer and I wanted before weight to see how much my flatbed is gonna end up weighing.

Empty/full tank
Axle......Rating.....ActualW.....remainder
Front....5200........4420.........780
Rear......6830.......2860.........3970
Truck....9900.......7280..........2620

Truck & trailer empty
Axle......Rating.....ActualW.....remainder
Front.....""...........4480.........720
Rear......""...........4100.........2280
Truck.....""...........8580.........1320
Trailer....12000.....5340..........6660
Gross.....23000.....13920........9080


It inspired some questions....My rear axle weight gave me practically 2 tons instead of 1. And my GVWR-GVW is more than a 11/4 ton (which should be a F450 right? ). Why are the truck's combined axles weights over 12K and yet the GVWR is over 2K less than that?

Does the GVWR of the truck go out the window and you just go by GAWRs/GCWR of the combo when towing? Say this setup:

Front-5000, rear-5500, trailer-11,000......Truck is 10.5K, and GCW is 21.5K. All axles are under they're GAWR, the combo is under both GCWR & the 26K CDL limit. Should be safe.

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So I finally got around to getting my weight at the local CAT scales since I got a Gooseneck 4 horse+LQ trailer and I wanted before weight to see how much my flatbed is gonna end up weighing.

Empty/full tank
Axle......Rating.....ActualW.....remainder
Front....5200........4420.........780
Rear......6830.......2860.........3970
Truck....9900.......7280..........2620 <-- The GVWR of the truck should be higher, no? Is this off the door tag?

Truck & trailer empty
Axle......Rating.....ActualW.....remainder
Front.....""...........4480.........720
Rear......""...........4100.........2280
Truck.....""...........8580.........1320
Trailer....12000.....5340..........6660 <-- Is this the GVWR of the trailer?
Gross.....23000.....13920........9080 <-- When you say gross, gross what? GCW or GCWR?


It inspired some questions....My rear axle weight gave me practically 2 tons instead of 1. And my GVWR-GVW is more than a 11/4 ton (which should be a F450 right? ). Why are the truck's combined axles weights over 12K and yet the GVWR is over 2K less than that? A "1ton" or "1/2 ton" is just a saying, I guess. Maybe it used to indicate the GAWRs but doesn't anymore.

Does the GVWR of the truck go out the window and you just go by GAWRs/GCWR of the combo when towing? Say this setup:

You have to stay, legally, under every GVWR and GAWR that you are given for the rig combo.

Front-5000, rear-5500, trailer-11,000......Truck is 10.5K, and GCW is 21.5K. All axles are under they're GAWR, the combo is under both GCWR & the 26K CDL limit. Should be safe.
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Yes, the GVWRs are sticker ratings for both the truck and trailer. Why do you think the truck should be higher? The "Gross" implied GCWR, that's why the header of that block says 'Truck & Trailer' and it's listed after the truck and trailer weights/ratings.

The nomenclatures are still pretty close on for GVWR, even all our new 2.5/5tons indicate about if not exactly that much weight on their door stickers.

Got it on the end, stay under both...Kinda rediculous law.


I may have made a mistake on the GCWR, maybe not. It's interesting that Fords GCWR/tow ratings charts changed from 20K in '04 and before to 23K in '05 (for my setup), yet the charts themselves do not list model years. They only list Model, gears, engine. So did they up the rating for all 6.0 powerstrokes, or did the '05-'07 get brake upgrades or something? They did get bigger rims so it seems plausible.
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