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Realistic towing capacity (newbie ??s)

(disclaimer: I'm mechanically challenged, new to the forum, and new to the diesel world. In other words: be gentle, it's my first time. )

I bought an '08 F250 6.4L, 4X4 Lariat this past spring, completely STOCK. I tow a 24' toyhauler/camper that weighs in around #8000 fully loaded. No issues there. I'm looking at upgrading the rv this winter, and am finding I really can't tow as much trailer as I had hoped. Ford says I can tow #12,500 on a 5th wheel. Most of what I'm looking at will put me in the #14,000 range. I know I can beef up the springs and such to help out with the load distribution, but what of the limits of the motor and transmission? And by adding airbags, etc, how can I then determine what I can SAFELY load and pull with the truck?

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Your engine and trans arn't the issue. For me it would be stability of the truck. Its a F250, I would want a F350 at least or a dually for me to safe. Springs and air bags will keep the truck level, but if a nice cross wind hits that camper that truck will be all over the road.

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Engine and transmission will be fine. They use the same powertrain all the way up to the F-550 (with different gearing). Where you are going to run into problems is with GVWR. If your truck weighs 7400# ready to roll, that only allows you 1400# of trailer pin weight. Assuming your pin weight is 17.5% of your trailers weight, that allows you to pull a fifth wheel trailer weighing only 8000#.

On an F-250 you're going to hit your GVWR before you ever come close to hitting the combined weight rating. Now thats not to say a lot of guys don't excede these numbers, but thats what the sticker inside your door says.

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There's no getting around the legality of what your truck is rated for vs what it is capable of towing. The 250 and 350 SRW are essentially the same except for the labels. 14k isn't an issue for a 250 if you drive smart. Put some airbags under it, make sure your tires are in good shape and properly inflated and you'll be fine.

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(disclaimer: I'm mechanically challenged, new to the forum, and new to the diesel world. In other words: be gentle, it's my first time. )

I bought an '08 F250 6.4L, 4X4 Lariat this past spring, completely STOCK. I tow a 24' toyhauler/camper that weighs in around #8000 fully loaded. No issues there. I'm looking at upgrading the rv this winter, and am finding I really can't tow as much trailer as I had hoped. Ford says I can tow #12,500 on a 5th wheel. Most of what I'm looking at will put me in the #14,000 range. I know I can beef up the springs and such to help out with the load distribution, but what of the limits of the motor and transmission? And by adding airbags, etc, how can I then determine what I can SAFELY load and pull with the truck?

I leave my fate in your hands, oh most omnipotent bbs overseers.

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Check this link:
https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/...08_default.asp - Check #19 - The numbers in here are different than the numbers you show above.

Just passing it on.

Also, FWIW, PLEASE make sure you are looking at the GROSS trailer weight when shopping for a trailer. I've seen too many people saying "Hey, I can tow THIS trailer, it only weighs #### empty." Yeah, true enough, but who ever tows it empty? You're wanting a toy hauler - I can guarantee you won't be towing empty.


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I agree...

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I wouldnt worry about what it says within reason. I mean i put 15k+ on mine, no its not legal but it pulls it no problem. You will be fine with 14k if you drive with sense. You need to check weight limits of tires, rims, and axles. Those are your weak links.


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Also, FWIW, PLEASE make sure you are looking at the GROSS trailer weight when shopping for a trailer. I've seen too many people saying "Hey, I can tow THIS trailer, it only weighs #### empty." Yeah, true enough, but who ever tows it empty? You're wanting a toy hauler - I can guarantee you won't be towing empty.
Yup, I am indeed. the #14K is loaded, mid-11s dry weight. DEFINITELY won't be towing empty! Thanks for the reminder... and the link.
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So, can I come to the loose conclusion that a significant amount of people are towing above what the manufacturer recommends as maximums? Can I also conclude that as long as I am not going WAY over my limits, driving smart, and making the correct the mods/adjustments I should be ok?
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It is hard to quantify 'a significant amount', but, yes, there are many people who tow over the limit. Some never have an issue, some do. As pointed out above, if ya behave yourself, you should be fine. Ultimately, the call to tow heavy is yours. Be as well informed as you can to make the best decision you can...for your safety and that of your family.

I am on an RV Forum as well (I also tow a regular 5er - 12k) and this topic comes up a lot. Some of the stuff that is said: (paraphrased)
Yes, your truck can probably tow way more than recommended, but....you gotta stop it too. Yes, the trailer will have brakes, but how much are you taxing the brakes on the truck.
Be careful how much over you tow. If you're in an accident, your truck/trailer may be weighed - if you're overweight, you could be found at fault. (depending on the circumstances)
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