Too much weight?

[bryanbrown]

you didn't mention whether or not the trailer has brakes. I don't think anyone is going to doubt whether or not your truck can handle the weight, but it definitely can't stop it safely. The 10K lbs thing has to due with needing a usdot # for interstate commerce (I got busted in okla. 2 months ago, weighed 33K, ouch!). In Texas, 26K lbs and over require a cdl, and (if commercial) a txdot#. If your only going 10 miles, I wouldn't worry about anything but the brakes.

[dgramenz]

I haven't actually purchased a trailer. I'm just looking at the possibility of it. If I do get one, I'm 200% sure it'll have brakes on both axles. I was mostly concerned about whether or not the suspension on a 250 could handle that kind of weight. For that matter, it's not even certain I'd pull it with my truck. We have a GMC 3500 SRW 6.5 that would work (but wouldn't go anywhere fast) and a Chevy 2500HD with the 8.1 and Allison (would pull that trailer 100 miles an hour and never know it was there). I'm just thinking about using mine to keep those two farm trucks freed up during the busy season. Thanks for all the advice so far. You guys are great!

[Hayman]

I do it with my gooseneck all the time.As long as you load the tank on the trailer right.I do the same thing for spraying..

[Heat]

With a properly loaded trailer you won't have an issue with the pin weight... The real issue here is that you will be WAY over gross combined weight.... The max combined weight on these trucks is between 23,000 and 26,000 lbs depending on model and equipment... You are looking at a combined weight of over 27,000 at least.... Don't get pulled over ...... Overweight charges are drastic....

Ken....

[Rescuediver]

Originally Posted by johnroach100

I know you were just asking about the mechanics of what you want to do but since the CDL thing was brought up, here's something I didn't know until a friend found out the hard way ($7800 fine). If a commercial vehicle grosses more than 10,000 lbs., truck and trailer, they most likely need to be registered with the DOT. He has several trucks so they got him for a lot. It doesn't cost anything if you're not for hire so I went ahead and did it.

Key word looks like "Commercial", not sure of the law though. DOT would be the same from state to state just like the CDL (It's the government ya know)

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Last edited by Rescuediver : 03-06-2007 at 12:11 PM.

[Maintain]

GCVWR is 20,000 for his model and year. His truck probably weighs 7,000 lbs. He could haul the water alone legally.

Alot of people pull that weight tho with your truck all the time... brakes are more important imo. Also, I've towed in an 8.1L GMC and it was a dog. The PSD is MUCH more capable compared to it. The 8.1 will also gobble up almost 2x's the fuel.

[dgramenz]

Well, I'm pretty sure I'm not getting the trailer, just because the way things are working out with the whole sprayer plan. But thanks for all the input guys....it was much appreciated! Maintain, you said you towed with an 8.1 and it was a dog? I'm a Ford man all the way, but I still gotta love the power ours has. You're dead right about it gulpin' the gas, but ours has about as much power as my truck and I hate to admit it.....but it's a LOT faster!!! I've been told that if you weigh a stock 8.1 down a little, it'll smoke a Vette in the quarter mile and after driving ours for a while, I believe it. Anyway, this is all off topic and I'll probably get kicked off the forum for speaking that way about a GM, but thanks again guys!

[Maintain]

Originally Posted by dgramenz

Maintain, you said you towed with an 8.1 and it was a dog? I'm a Ford man all the way, but I still gotta love the power ours has. You're dead right about it gulpin' the gas, but ours has about as much power as my truck and I hate to admit it.....but it's a LOT faster!!! I've been told that if you weigh a stock 8.1 down a little, it'll smoke a Vette in the quarter mile and after driving ours for a while, I believe it. Anyway, this is all off topic and I'll probably get kicked off the forum for speaking that way about a GM, but thanks again guys!

No you won't get kicked off the forum.
No the 8.1 in a heavy duty truck will not smoke the vette.
They produce roughly 280hp/370tq at the rear wheels, which is only slightly higher then the Hemi 5.7. Which by the way gets better fuel mileage and I smoke in 1/4 (1500 crewcab). I bet that 8.1 feels very responsive off the line with little peddle pressure, and why wouldn't it while consuming 8 gallons per mile unloaded

[RamAirfreak98ss]

Originally Posted by johnroach100

I know you were just asking about the mechanics of what you want to do but since the CDL thing was brought up, here's something I didn't know until a friend found out the hard way ($7800 fine). If a commercial vehicle grosses more than 10,000 lbs., truck and trailer, they most likely need to be registered with the DOT. He has several trucks so they got him for a lot. It doesn't cost anything if you're not for hire so I went ahead and did it.

How could you not have more than 10k for truck AND trailer? my truck is 7.5k plus the trailer at least that with my car in it so thats 15k. And i need a CDL for that? not in jersey you dont.. .im pretty sure its a gross of 26k, like an F550 with a huge heavy trailer or F650 dump truck would hit that.

[johnroach100]

Originally Posted by RamAirfreak98ss

How could you not have more than 10k for truck AND trailer? my truck is 7.5k plus the trailer at least that with my car in it so thats 15k. And i need a CDL for that? not in jersey you dont.. .im pretty sure its a gross of 26k, like an F550 with a huge heavy trailer or F650 dump truck would hit that.

Like it said in an earlier post, the key word is commercial. I didn't believe it either until I looked it up. You don't need a CDL, but if go outside the state you need a physical card, logs, all that crap. 26,001 and up you need the cdl. Most states exempt RVs and personal stuff, but not all. Federal Motor Carrier Safety AdministrationThat link will tell you about it.