Massive ammounts of banning going on...

[CSIPSD]

I am by no means trying to start anything, but I see a trend going on in the last few months over here, both in the 7.3 area and the 6.0 area.

We all have many different opinions, and different ways of expressing them. Sometimes this goes against the personal ways a particular mod would post something up, or it goes against a way a mod would like to see a particular vendor represented.

Myself of all people has learned this lesson over the years.

However banning people, some with over 6 years, 12k posts on this very forum (you know, the guys who made the forum, let it grow and be bought for large amounts of money) have been banned. Most permanently.

I am asking for an admin to look into these banning, review the productive posts of these members and reconsider.

A permanent ban gains you nothing. You loose a productive member, you loose respect of all his or her friends and it causes friction. If someone needs a cooling off period then so be it... I have been banned for weeks, months, hell even a year from FTE... All because of something I felt so right in posting that I would not give it up.

Please don't lock or delete this thread, lets start the conversation about this and bring back some very helpful posters.

[Six0~Stroker]

I will agree with you on this


Banning everyone will just kill this forum (especially perma banning)

I do understand when a person REALLY crosses the line...but not for just expressing his (maybe stubborn opinion) we all have those days


Doesn't mean to cut them off completely

[rum4]

I agree with both above but people accusing mods and members of doing whatever without all the facts is total crap and everyone knows it. Some people should stay out of the fight instead of just adding BS comments to stir the crap up.

[CSIPSD]

Originally Posted by rum4

I agree with both above but people accusing mods and members of doing whatever without all the facts is total crap and everyone knows it. Some people should stay out of the fight instead of just adding BS comments to stir the crap up.

Whooo wait a minute, I am not stiring the pot what so ever... I am a mod on another diesel forum, and I can tell you in the last 4 years we have banned less then 6 people... Other then spammers.

Just dont see the need to ban everyone if you can have a simple conversation via PM's or something to that effect.

[jeffc]

Coming from a different perspective (cumminsforum), this website is a bit more hostile. People are just less likely to give ground and more likely to call you a fag or something because you have a different perspective. I don't really care, I can handle my own and do get a huge kick out of it usually, but it is a different environment over here that I have not seen in a few of the other places around the net.

The thing that killed me about PS.org was having a post edited for, let's say "mature content", in the HOTTEST WOMEN thread. Personally, I didn't think it was that bad of a comment, as I am capable of much worse given the topic. The reason was that this is a family site. The irony was incredible.

There is some really useful stuff here, and PS.org seems to have more traffic in the 6.7 section, so that's why I'm here. I can't speak to the of banning people, but to be honest, I can see why it's higher than other places. One thing to keep in mind, this isn't the only site out there. If this is your thing, there's a multitude of websites out there to be a part of. When one site starts to falter and become to rigid, you start to see the inevitable migration elsewhere. Happens all the time. This is still a good site though.

[CSIPSD]

Originally Posted by jeffc

Coming from a different perspective (cumminsforum), this website is a bit more hostile. People are just less likely to give ground and more likely to call you a fag or something because you have a different perspective. I don't really care, I can handle my own and do get a huge kick out of it usually, but it is a different environment over here that I have not seen in a few of the other places around the net.

The thing that killed me about PS.org was having a post edited for, let's say "mature content", in the HOTTEST WOMEN thread. Personally, I didn't think it was that bad of a comment, as I am capable of much worse given the topic. The reason was that this is a family site. The irony was incredible.

There is some really useful stuff here, and PS.org seems to have more traffic in the 6.7 section, so that's why I'm here. I can't speak to the of banning people, but to be honest, I can see why it's higher than other places. One thing to keep in mind, this isn't the only site out there. If this is your thing, there's a multitude of websites out there to be a part of. When one site starts to falter and become to rigid, you start to see the inevitable migration elsewhere. Happens all the time.

Good post...

I've been a member here for a long time, I've been a member of just about every powerstroke site out there and they all come and go. This one has just taken a turn in the last 6-9 months that saddens me.

I do believe there is some work being done to improve it, I know there have been some issues over the last year on the forum I am a moderator on... Bad economy causes these things to come second, third, fifth or twentieth in most moderators lives.

Just hate to see guys that have been around for a long time, with hugely popular and quality posts get banned.

[rum4]

Originally Posted by CSIPSD

Whooo wait a minute, I am not stiring the pot what so ever... I am a mod on another diesel forum, and I can tell you in the last 4 years we have banned less then 6 people... Other then spammers.

Just dont see the need to ban everyone if you can have a simple conversation via PM's or something to that effect.

CSIPSD that comment was not directed toward you. It was meant for those that just jump on the band wagon without knowing enough of what is going on. Again no directed toward you.

[Skew12]

The knowledge on this site is what brings so many people here and it keeps them here. If you start throwing away people that have built "your" site with knowledge, and the sole reason other's click through page after page, then you'll eventually be left with nothing.

I do agree that people do get out of hand and need some time off here and there, but permanently banning someone that has helped to shape this site is not wise. Pride needs to be swallowed sometimes.

There are a couple PSD sites that are growing very quickly due to some of these changes.

[drunk on diesel]

this is the natural evolution of all commercial forums

good, bad, or otherwise, Autoguide bought and owns the site and it will be run the way they want it run.

seen it many times

[ABOBB]

Yes, Autoguide did purchase this site, and they have made some changes to the business side of it's operation to fit with their model, however, other than some new additions the staff of this site has not changed, nor has Autoguide given us instructions on how to run this site on a day to day basis.

CSIPSD hit on some very good points. Not only has the staff felt some impact due to the economy, and other reasons, but so have the members. Peoples tempers are a little shorter, it's a little easier to make biting comments.

The staff does recognize that this has become a problem, and that we have inadvertantly gotten away from some of the practices we once used to help grow this into what we consider the premier site for powerstroke information.

We are actively working to correct this, and to return to a situation that maintains this as a family friendly, informative resource for powerstroke enthusiasts. We have every confidence that we will be able to do this.

There are many things under review at the moment, what changes, or reversals of decisions may or may not be made are not known at this time.