PULLED ON 295 FOR HEIGHT

[rock hardson]

Originally Posted by TexasR.N.

I believe a very important question needs to be asked here. Did the recipient deserve the kick to the head . I am willing to bet he wasn't just standing on the corner waiting for city bus #919 to take him / her to the local library.


Sounds like someone got up on the wrong side of the wrong side of the squad car

Craig

That was a pretty funny one. I will give you that.

[sevenmalards]

Originally Posted by TexasR.N.

I believe a very important question needs to be asked here. Did the recipient deserve the kick to the head . I am willing to bet he wasn't just standing on the corner waiting for city bus #919 to take him / her to the local library.



Craig

No, complete abuse of power under the color of authority

Here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtgRAr4wnFQ

[sevenmalards]

Originally Posted by rock hardson

El Monte police officer observed kicking suspect in head. Hmmm.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Just posted the video link. Absolute power doesn't corrupt absolutely. It's the very few that give a bad name to the majority of good empathetic law enforcement

[TexasR.N.]

After that hi-speed chase and being a gang banger he should be hung by the neck until dead, and I am not kidding. It is a complete lack of respect for law and order that perpetuates crime like this. This SOB is lucky that I am not in charge of the criminal justice system, he'd be thankful for a kick to the head.

For those of you who think I am being to harsh...............what if this waste of space had killed or paralyzed a family member during his little escapade.

I understand that under our current system the cop's action violated the law / rules / etc........so give him a slap on the wrist and some sensitivity training and send him on his way.

Craig

[BadAss01F250]

Originally Posted by f250ford

I was on the way home from work yesterday not speeding with my windows down and got pulled by a state trooper at mile marker 30 on 295 in Hanover County. The trooper rolled up to my truck and first started asking me if I had my weapon on me (guess he ran my plate and saw I have a ccw). Then he asked me if I knew the legal height for my truck. I told him yeah 30 for front bumper and 31 for rear. He swore I was above the limit, he didn't know my truck is a 3/4 ton. We started out measuring the front and it was right at 29 and some change, I could tell he didn't like that. Then went to the back and measured and I was right at 31, he didn't like that again. He was unsatisfied that he couldn't give me a ticket for height so then he started probing. He asked me if my windows were tinted I told him yes. Now mind you I had my windows down when he pulled me. I was honest and told him yes, he checked them with his meter. Front window was 18%. He wrote me a ticket for tint. Seemed like he was just looking for something to get me on. I have had my windows tinted for years and never got a ticket or pulled. Guess I'll pay the $91 ticket and keep the tint not worth taking it off to me. Does anyone on here have problems with Richmond area troopers and height?

YES!! I have been pulled for the same thing on 95, 295, and 64, your story is almost the same as mine (except my tint only came up at 47%). If you get pulled by an officer in New Kent County, be prepared for the same situation except they will more than likely have a K9 unit walking around your truck.

[colberjs]

Originally Posted by TexasR.N.

After that hi-speed chase and being a gang banger he should be hung by the neck until dead, and I am not kidding. It is a complete lack of respect for law and order that perpetuates crime like this. This SOB is lucky that I am not in charge of the criminal justice system, he'd be thankful for a kick to the head.

For those of you who think I am being to harsh...............what if this waste of space had killed or paralyzed a family member during his little escapade.

I understand that under our current system the cop's action violated the law / rules / etc........so give him a slap on the wrist and some sensitivity training and send him on his way.

Craig

I guess I missed the part that said he was a known gang affiliate. The job of the police is not to exact punisment. That is what the court sytem is for. I'm not saying he shouldn't be held accountable for his actions but they are not the judge and jury. The officer needs to be held accountable too. If you are speeding or run a red light, that doesn't make it OK for a cop to kick you in the head because you potentially put somebody else's life in danger. And saying that his actions warrant the death penalty is absurd.

[Gator0175]

Originally Posted by sevenmalards

No, complete abuse of power under the color of authority

Here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtgRAr4wnFQ

Originally Posted by TexasR.N.

After that hi-speed chase and being a gang banger he should be hung by the neck until dead, and I am not kidding. It is a complete lack of respect for law and order that perpetuates crime like this. This SOB is lucky that I am not in charge of the criminal justice system, he'd be thankful for a kick to the head.

For those of you who think I am being to harsh...............what if this waste of space had killed or paralyzed a family member during his little escapade.

I understand that under our current system the cop's action violated the law / rules / etc........so give him a slap on the wrist and some sensitivity training and send him on his way.

Craig

I think he deserved exactly what he got, and I agree completely about if I was in control of the criminal justice system
While I do agree that some cops take their job way to seriously, it seems like at times criminals have more rights than the officer. Case and point; My cousin is in the middle of an investigation because one night, somewhere around midnight, he and his partner responded to a call about a break in. When they arrive on the scene they see the suspect jump out of the window, he puts his hand in his waistband and begins running toward my cousin's partner. So at this point my cousin draws his weapon and orders him to stop, he doesn't stop so my cousin shoots him. Now it is up to the sheriff if he keeps his job. His partner testified and said she saw no weapon but the suspect did have his hand around the waistband as though he was reaching for something. So in a situation that required quick action my cousin did what many people would do, he tried to protect his partner, and people want his badge for it. That's bull s***!

[colberjs]

Originally Posted by Gator0175

I think he deserved exactly what he got, and I agree completely about if I was in control of the criminal justice system
While I do agree that some cops take their job way to seriously, it seems like at times criminals have more rights than the officer. Case and point; My cousin is in the middle of an investigation because one night, somewhere around midnight, he and his partner responded to a call about a break in. When they arrive on the scene they see the suspect jump out of the window, he puts his hand in his waistband and begins running toward my cousin's partner. So at this point my cousin draws his weapon and orders him to stop, he doesn't stop so my cousin shoots him. Now it is up to the sheriff if he keeps his job. His partner testified and said she saw no weapon but the suspect did have his hand around the waistband as though he was reaching for something. So in a situation that required quick action my cousin did what many people would do, he tried to protect his partner, and people want his badge for it. That's bull s***!

I'm not saying the guy didn't deserve it. My point is that it's not the officers position to extol punishment. The guy at that point was not resisting. Instead of wasting his time looking at him and kicking him, he should have been apprehending him before he decided to jump up and run or threaten the cop.

As far as the other scenario goes, it is the cops responsibility to protect themselves and their partners. Even if he didn't have a gun, he could have had a knife and stabbed one or both of them. If the person is not cooperating then desperate times call for desperate measures.

I'm not trying to defend criminals or justify their actions. I'm simply stating that just because they don't play by the rules doesn't make it OK for the police to overstep their boundaries. Sometimes those boundaries extend farther than other times, such as your scenario.

[TexasR.N.]

My replies in red

Originally Posted by colberjs

I guess I missed the part that said he was a known gang affiliate. The job of the police is not to exact punishment. I will agree and concede this point. That is what the court system is for. I'm not saying he shouldn't be held accountable for his actions but they are not the judge and jury. The officer needs to be held accountable too What is acceptable punishment for the officer?. If you are speeding or run a red light, that doesn't make it OK for a cop to kick you in the head because you potentially put somebody else's life in danger Of course not, but what this individual did goes beyond merely running a red light. And saying that his actions warrant the death penalty is absurd I believe violent / dangerous career criminals should be executed. I have said that many times on this site and stand by my beliefs. How many times has something like this played out and a police officer or innocent motorist / bystander gets killed by a repeat offender? I believe that the lives and safety of the law abiding citizens are of higher value than some low life dirt bad repeat offender..

Craig

[CoalRollinRoosterCruiser]

Originally Posted by h2odrx

Well not in NC. That's what my doctors note is for, haven't wore one for over 22 years!

Actually, no, THEY CAN pull you over for just not wearing a seat belt here in NC