Don't Call Officer Riviera Dude

[Barchetta]

Even thought the video didn't show the situation from the beginning, I don't know what gave this officer the right to shove the kid to the ground and start barking at him like a dog. That was a little uncalled for. It's like he thought the 14 year old was a crackhead.

I do think the kid should have shown a whole lot more respect to the officer. And my kid still would get an azzwhoopin' for not showing respect, but I would make damn sure that officer didn't work another day in his life in that capacity.

I never been in trouble with the law so I don't have any reason to dislike cops. I have just seen the flip side of the coin and seen some damn cool officers down here and how they handle situations like that. But now I am Monday Morning QB this thing.

[Powerstrokin03]

Originally Posted by Bamfster

Maybe Prozac Cop hates skateboard punks because of skateboard punks like that.

I would have liked to see what led up to that, from my experience, the tape doesn't start rolling till the cop gets pissed. And how convienient that the camera doesn't show the punk and you can't tell what he's lipping off about.

Yea that cop has issues, but so does the 14 y/o. If that was my 14 y/o, he wouldn't be going skateboarding for a good long time, plus he would give the cop an appology in person.

Originally Posted by kinghawg98

Thats what I was sayin bamfster- it doesnt show what was before tape rolled...as is the case in MOST "outrageous" police videos.

You guys are missing the point... The Kid is 14 with a skateboard not a knife, gun, bat, nothing.. THEY CAN NOT touch him like that period. And from what i seen in that video he didn't start getting mad until a few seconds after that video was going.. So he's a fat azz cop with a power trip.. And as for disrespect. You have to give it to get it no matter who you are.. And thats just the way is it.. Put it this way if he didn't lose his job from that and it was my kid he would lose his jaw and would be able to talk for a while...

[Bamfster]

Originally Posted by Barchetta

Even thought the video didn't show the situation from the beginning, I don't know what gave this officer the right to shove the kid to the ground and start barking at him like a dog. That was a little uncalled for. It's like he thought the 14 year old was a crackhead.

I do think the kid should have shown a whole lot more respect to the officer. And my kid still would get an azzwhoopin' for not showing respect, but I would make damn sure that officer didn't work another day in his life in that capacity.

I never been in trouble with the law so I don't have any reason to dislike cops. I have just seen the flip side of the coin and seen some damn cool officers down here and how they handle situations like that. But now I am Monday Morning QB this thing.

Do you think he should lose his livelyhood for maybe having a bad day, maybe having been trained to deal with what he percieved as a threat that way? Maybe he has had previous dealings with this "group" of kids before in a much more negative way.

I'm a little biased in so much as I am a third generation cop. I was always brought up to do whatever a cop tells you to do, whether you think it's right or not. My Dad would always tell me " the easiest way to go to jail, is tell a cop he can't put you in jail".

Just for the record, I'm not condoning that cop's actions, if that video is a true and accurate account of the ENTIRE contact/incident.

[Barchetta]

Originally Posted by Bamfster

Do you think he should lose his livelyhood for maybe having a bad day, maybe having been trained to deal with what he percieved as a threat that way? Maybe he has had previous dealings with this "group" of kids before in a much more negative way.

I'm a little biased in so much as I am a third generation cop. I was always brought up to do whatever a cop tells you to do, whether you think it's right or not. My Dad would always tell me " the easiest way to go to jail, is tell a cop he can't put you in jail".

Just for the record, I'm not condoning that cop's actions, if that video is a true and accurate account of the ENTIRE contact/incident.

First off I want you to know that I totally respect LE. No ands, ifs or buts about it.


Hmmm... but how do I answer that question?


People lose jobs all the time because they have bad days and make bad decisions. I don't think LE should be any different.

To some extent I think LE should be looked at in a different light with judgment on their actions simply because of their training. They will always have different reactions than the civilian. Having said that, if this fella was so well trained, I don't think he should not have reacted that way. I am not a LE officer so I don't know what this fella would have perceived the threat to be, but simply having a teen not give you respect is not any reason to toss him to the ground.

If that had been any other person to throw that kid to the ground, their life would be over. They would be in a world of poo for battery. So why does the officer get a pass in this situation?

Something else I would like to add in the opposite direction of this thread. I think LE gets targeted for brutality more than is necessary. I feel sometimes that LE might be afraid to do their jobs because they think someone will wrongfully claim brutality or wrongful death.

Have I confused you all yet?

And by all means, please be biased. Nothing wrong with that.

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Last edited by Barchetta : 05-27-2008 at 09:03 AM. Reason: Grammar

[sevenmalards]

Little fat kid got picked on in school, grew up to be a cop

[Bamfster]

Originally Posted by Powerstrokin03

You guys are missing the point... The Kid is 14 with a skateboard not a knife, gun, bat, nothing.. THEY CAN NOT touch him like that period. And from what i seen in that video he didn't start getting mad until a few seconds after that video was going.. So he's a fat azz cop with a power trip.. And as for disrespect. You have to give it to get it no matter who you are.. And thats just the way is it.. Put it this way if he didn't lose his job from that and it was my kid he would lose his jaw and would be able to talk for a while...

So you don't think a person can be killed if not suffer serious bodily injury when a skateboard is used as a weapon, or by a 14 y/o? My old partner lost the vision in his left eye from a golf tee in the hand of a 15 y/o....thats serious bodily injury. Use of force, even deadly force, by statute (CO) is allowed.

Contrary to popular belief, the cops CAN use force, as long as it can be articulated why it was done. What are the chances that the video is editted? Maybe junior started poppin' off, threatening the cop, and took an offensive/aggresive stance? Cops are not required to be assaulted or harmed prior to the use of force. They are not PAID to get injured or assaulted.

Assault to a police officer......class 2 felony.....nuff said!

[sevenmalards]

Originally Posted by Bamfster

Do you think he should lose his livelyhood for maybe having a bad day, maybe having been trained to deal with what he percieved as a threat that way? Maybe he has had previous dealings with this "group" of kids before in a much more negative way.

I'm a little biased in so much as I am a third generation cop. I was always brought up to do whatever a cop tells you to do, whether you think it's right or not. My Dad would always tell me " the easiest way to go to jail, is tell a cop he can't put you in jail".

Just for the record, I'm not condoning that cop's actions, if that video is a true and accurate account of the ENTIRE contact/incident.

That's funny, my wife is a cop here in Sac and is the Training coordinator for all new hires, and I'm QUITE CERTAIN that violates all department policy for the Baltimore P.D. and everywhere else in the U.S.
"Having a bad day" does NOT give the cop the right to assault the kid because he was grinding on the stairs with his board. That's why (at least here) they are required to pass a oral psychological interview. Obviously the fatty is a deadbeat cop or else he wouldn't be on "meter maid" duty in his little golf cart. If your a cop then you know only the chit stains get that detail, and looking at his build he isn't fit to be out on patrol, so he gets his kicks harassing kids.
He should be put under investigation, and depending on his personal record (which I'm sure there are more complaints) and terminated based on the collective evidence of abuse of power.

WHEN I WAS 20 I HAD A COP GET IN MY FACE AND START CUSSING AT ME OVER A TRAFFIC VIOLATION. AND I TOLD HIM " F-U BACK, YOU CAN'T TALK TO ME LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOU WEAR A BADGE, YOUR JUST A JOE WITH A JOB JUST LIKE ME"
You know what he did?
NOTHING
Because he knew he was wrong.

[Barchetta]

Originally Posted by Bamfster

So you don't think a person can be killed if not suffer serious bodily injury when a skateboard is used as a weapon, or by a 14 y/o? My old partner lost the vision in his left eye from a golf tee....thats serious bodily injury. Use of force, even deadly force, by statute (CO) is allowed.

Contrary to popular belief, the cops CAN use force, as long as it can be articulated why it was done. What are the chances that the video is editted? Maybe junior started poppin' off, threatening the cop, and took an offensive/aggresive stance? Cops are not required to be assaulted or harmed prior to the use of force. They are not PAID to get injured or assaulted.

Assault to a police officer......class 2 felony.....nuff said!

I have seen videos of people getting whacked with skateboards. That's some nasty stuff.

Now my question is why don't all cops act like this if they are justified?

[kinghawg98]

I'm definatley not missing the point. Many however, are quick to dam(n) the cop without any more facts than seen on this video.

Nothing leading up to it, no idea if edited, cant even see the little smartarse kid. For all you know he was getting ready to spit on the cop.

Sorry, too many unknowns to say its all the cop. He should def not have been on his power trip based on the vid.....but again, we dont know if there is more.

IMO, society is so quick to pass blame rather than see whats going on and THEN make a judgement. Its not all about who you can sue in life....like some eluded to in this post. Its not all about who you can get in trouble. The guy appears to havescrewed up, he should be reprimaneded within the department and thats it. None of this lawsuit crap, none of this defending the kid.

At least the kid has one smart friend when he told him to shut up. The little twirp didnt listen. Did he deserve to be manhandled, prob not, but maybe it'll do him some good.

[sevenmalards]

Originally Posted by Bamfster

Contrary to popular belief, the cops CAN use force, as long as it can be articulated why it was done. Maybe junior started poppin' off, threatening the cop, and took an offensive/aggresive stance? Cops are not required to be assaulted or harmed prior to the use of force. They are not PAID to get injured or assaulted.

Assault to a police officer......class 2 felony.....nuff said!

Funny, cops can ONLY use force to "protect and preserve life and property"
and to defend themselves, and to make arrests when being resisted.
Your argument of the kid taking a "offensive/aggressive stance" is a moot point, as the cop was at least 40-50 meters from the juvenile, therefore not in any direct threat/danger.