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post #1 of 11 Old 05-29-2013, 06:18 AM Thread Starter
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5th wheel trailer brakes

I have a 2006 4x4 F350 6.0L with stock brake controller. MY trailer is 2007 35ft Trail Bay fifth wheel camping trailer with electric brakes. When i was towing this last weekend I noticed that the rims on my trailer where very hot to the touch. I suspect the brakes are dragging. However I do not have very much experience working on trailer brakes. Is this just a matter of adjustment or should I keep an eye out for other issues. Also I have issues with the brake controller; it always beeps when no trailer is hooked up. The dash panel always says trailer fault. I have checked the harness for loose connections. Any manuals or troubleshooting guides would be a great help for this novice. Thanks for the help.
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These brakes are all electric controlled. Very easy to work on. Saw on AMAZON this weekend that they sell the entire brake set up for a axle for $124 if I rember right. I think its like 4 bolts to pull and replace whole set up.
Also when was the last time you repacked the bearings?

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Wheel bearings and brakes where inspected last year at a shop. It felt like they where dragging when I was towing home this weekend, didn't due on the way to lake. I have done the brakes on my truck and cars. So I should be able to handle it.
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I was pleasntly suprised at the price of these brake set ups

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Heck Im thinking about buying a couple sets just to have around cause I know if I wait till I need them they will be twice the price.

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If your trailer brake panel is beeping and saying trailer fault when there is NO trailer hooked up, then you have a short in the plug or wires or the trailer brake controller is bad.

Sounds like it's keeping your trailer brakes engaged when it's hooked up to them, and sounds to me like a wiring short. I'd start at the plug and work your way back, there should be no activity on the trailer brake power wire if there is no trailer hooked up, but sounds like you have some.

Probably best to take it to a trailer/rv shop to be honest, as you could be chasing wires all day and waste a lot of time.

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Yes this is what I had in my head. When I checked the rims on the way home all four where hot. I did not think it probably that all four brake assembly where faulty. I thought the controller was the problem, I have checked the cable from connecter at back of truck to cab. But get lost at this point. Does anyone have prints or manual in pdf format. Would be a great help.
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Did you check the break-a-way, if it's pulled, it will engage the brakes.

And if it is, when you first hooked up, the battery is probably dead, but as you drove, the truck charged the battery up and engaged the brakes.

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Well I checked break away, did not cure fault. We are starting to get hot days here in Northern CA, and my trailer controller is sending trailer faults more and more. I cleaned all there plugs for corrosion, and disconnected rear must plug at back of truck. Fault still apaired. My belief is that the controller contains some kind of fault. Going to order shop manual from Helms, to get a complete print to further troubleshoot.
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Unhook your brakes from the circuit one at a time until you find the one that is faulting out. I almost guarantee the problem is not your controller. You have a short somewhere.

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