Do I need a Track Bar Adjustment???

[2005F250]

Originally Posted by DCSpecial

With the upper ball joint being moved back such a small amount it's hard to imagine that you rubbed sheet metal with them, but rub nothing now.

I did rub sheet metal. I know from expirence. Before I was all about the cams and after dealing with them I try to steer people away from them.

[shortgoroper]

You guys are talking about caster cams now... What type of leveling kit did you go with???? Wouldnt putting the shackle leveling kit throw off the caster??? I am going with an add-a-leaf.

[LHMissions]

I bought earlier this week the Rough Country 2" leveling leafs front & back for my '03 6.0 My Mechanic is installing them last night and this morning. Going at lunch to pick it up!

I asked Rough Country about the Track bar when I bought the leafs - they said its not necessary on the 2" leafs.

[DCSpecial]

Originally Posted by shortgoroper

You guys are talking about caster cams now... What type of leveling kit did you go with???? Wouldnt putting the shackle leveling kit throw off the caster??? I am going with an add-a-leaf.

05-08 trucks with the coil spring suspension and radius arms.

[DCSpecial]

Originally Posted by 2005F250

I did rub sheet metal. I know from expirence. Before I was all about the cams and after dealing with them I try to steer people away from them.

They come with the Icon 2.5" and BDS 2" and we install them with the Bilstein 2.25" without issue.

[DCSpecial]

FWIW, I was messing around with my 07 (snow plow package, sits high to start with) measuring a few things so I jacked up the front end 1" over stock....and my axle was .75" over to the driver's side.

[Evil Eye]

Dan,
I can see how it would shift the axle due to the trac bar, but I just cannot see how a 2.5" leveling kit would change your camber. Can you try to help me?

Sincerely,
Clueless in Surprise

[DCSpecial]

Originally Posted by Evil Eye

Dan,
I can see how it would shift the axle due to the trac bar, but I just cannot see how a 2.5" leveling kit would change your camber. Can you try to help me?

Sincerely,
Clueless in Surprise

With a radius arm setup that the 05+ trucks have, the radius arm moves the axle in an arc as it travels. As the axle is lowered from the frame, the radius arm arcs downward and slightly changes caster, making it more negative (upper ball joint is rotated slightly forward) as it moves.

Now, if the radius arm bracket at the frame was replaced with a drop bracket that would correct for this.

With a leveling kit, you can get away with just doing the cams to adjust camber back to stock specs.

Hope this helps.

[Evil Eye]

I knew that... I kept visualizing my wife's a-arm setup on her Dodge and couldn't see how it would affect camber. That makes total sense, Dan! I'll be ordering those up very soon. In fact, I've added them and the Icon 2.5" leveling springs into my cart once already, but didn't have a good excuse to give the wife. Do you have the part number for the stock Ford rubber isolator (I think that's what it was called) that my 2.5" rubber leveling block replaced?

[DCSpecial]

Originally Posted by Evil Eye

I knew that... I kept visualizing my wife's a-arm setup on her Dodge and couldn't see how it would affect camber. That makes total sense, Dan! I'll be ordering those up very soon. In fact, I've added them and the Icon 2.5" leveling springs into my cart once already, but didn't have a good excuse to give the wife. Do you have the part number for the stock Ford rubber isolator (I think that's what it was called) that my 2.5" rubber leveling block replaced?

I was just thinking...

I suppose a way to visualize this would be to do the following.

Take a can of a beverage of your choice.
Hold it in your hand.
Extend your arm outward so that the can is vertical.
Lower your arm.
The upper part of the can tilts further and further forward the more you lower it.


Just like with the trac bar, your shoulder is the radius arm mounted to the frame of the truck.


Keep in mind we're only talking 2.25* cams that come with the leveling kits so it's not a huge shift.









I don't have that part number handy, but I'll see if I can't get it.