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Old 06-18-2013, 08:58 PM
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I have a 3.5 inch hanger system now. Looking to get a couple more inches out of the front because it still sits lower in the from than the rear. Just how I bought the truck. Looking to do a mini leaf pack in the front. My question is at what size lift do I need to get the extended sway bar and what size do I need the different pitman arm
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I started out with a 4in hanger kit, added an inch from an idea I had by adding a rear top overload leaf to each pack, and I will gain another 1/2 in from the 5 in shackle I have coming. Theoretical 5.5in of lift and 5in rear block will be close to appearing level.

I have only gone to longer shocks, adj track bar, and moved my sway bar mounts to the bottom of the frame. Everything seems just fine.
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Theoretical 5.5in of lift and 5in rear block will be close to appearing level.
I had 2" add-a-leaf + 3" hangers with a five inch rear block and it was tail low. I ditched all of the bolcks for a Pro Comp 6" rear spring and it was about right.

What did I learn? If you are going to do your own lift, take GOOD measurements and not guess what's going to work. The next time I lift one, I'm buying a lift kit and be done with it!

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I had 2" add-a-leaf + 3" hangers with a five inch rear block and it was tail low. I ditched all of the bolcks for a Pro Comp 6" rear spring and it was about right.

What did I learn? If you are going to do your own lift, take GOOD measurements and not guess what's going to work. The next time I lift one, I'm buying a lift kit and be done with it!

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Thanks for the input. Maybe your rear springs were sagging, idk. Did you take measurements or was it just obvious?

Let me share my experience. I wanted to maintain the best ride possible for the least amount of money.
The only reason why I bought new oem is cause I wanted a fresh start on the suspension and I though mine might be worn out, but the new springs made no difference.

I used brand new oem v code front springs and pmf 4in front hanger kit. Put 3in blocks on top of my 2in blocks. Rear was still quite a bit higher, 2.5in difference in wheel well openings and looked obvious that the rear was still high.

Added new rear top overloads to the new front springs. Rear measures around 1-1/4" higher still by measurements. To the eye its close but if you really look at it on flat ground, there is a very slight slope/rake.

I guess every case can be different. I also didn't want the added stiffness from lift springs, my c codes are stiff enough. Oem is also cheaper than lift springs from what ive found. Lift kits ive seen also make the trucks look higher in the front from what ive seen as well. Not always but a lot of times. Thats my 2 cents.
After doing it this time, I know what I need if I had to do it again. I have heard typically you want 1in higher in the rear to appear level, but not from my recent experience with my truck.

Im also going to do traction blocks, so I want to be absolutely certain of what size block I want to run.

Sorry for the long post, got carried away
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At 50K, I seriously doubt the leafs were sagged. I was all excited doing my first lift so I didn't bother measuring before/after. Yes, there was a visible tail down rake going on until I put those Pro-Comp 6" rear springs in. Maybe I should have simply bought a solid 6" block? All I can tell you is that I don't like stacking blocks, I've seen them get spit out. Whose to say that I only got 2" out of the add-a-leaf? Again, measuring would have been key.

BTW, I ditched the add-a-leaf because it was digging into the leaves when on the bottom and bent the upper leaf on both ends when installed between the springs. No bueno, Batman.

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At 50K, I seriously doubt the leafs were sagged. I was all excited doing my first lift so I didn't bother measuring before/after. Yes, there was a visible tail down rake going on until I put those Pro-Comp 6" rear springs in. Maybe I should have simply bought a solid 6" block? All I can tell you is that I don't like stacking blocks, I've seen them get spit out. Whose to say that I only got 2" out of the add-a-leaf? Again, measuring would have been key.

BTW, I ditched the add-a-leaf because it was digging into the leaves when on the bottom and bent the upper leaf on both ends when installed between the springs. No bueno, Batman.

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I agree with what you are saying.
I also do not like stacking blocks, mine are just temporary and to figure out what size blocks I need. I also do not like really tall blocks. I think a 5in might be the tallest block I would run.
I would prefer to stay as low as possible but im having rubbing issues in the front cause of my 315s on 16x10 wheels.
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I agree about tall blocks, unless they are the traction bar mount blocks, those things would have solved so many of my problems. I should have figured out how much rear lift that I needed and bought those.

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