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Question Need help deciding on what brand of lift I should go with.

I've got a stock 2006 supercab longbed FX4 F350 XLT. I run unloaded about 95% of the time. Any hauling I do will either be yard work, the two ATV's or maybe once a year grabbing a skid loader for my buddy. And it may see light off road/dirt road use when getting to the ATV trails or to my BIL's house. Most of the time though it spends on the highway.

Right now the rear end of the truck bounces so much on the highway (while unloaded) I have a natural vibrato while talking and driving. Plus I have found fat jiggling in places I didn't know I had fat.

Is there any 2.5" or 4" lift out there in a non-wallet killing price (under $3000) that calms down the rear end of this truck significantly without totally destroying the tow/haul weight? I know I'm asking for a lot but one can always hope.

Oh, I should note that I just put new HD Bilstein (yellow/blue's) on it and it did not help at all. I also have Sulastic rubber shackles on it and they really haven't made any difference where I need it most therefore I'll be removing them soon and going back to the stock shackles.


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Take a look at the Carli stuff they seem to have figured out the best ride for your money.

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Yeah, I wasn't sure if Carli or Icon or Zone or etc had a kit that would work really well. I've been looking at all of their kits but it's hard to tell exactly which one would work best. For example Carli has their 'Commuter 2.0' system. In the description they state "Tighter street feel Driving Characteristics" and I would be afraid that this system may actually make the bouncing worse.

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Icon, Pure Performance..one issue with the rear ride quality is the rear springs. Ford changed the design in '05 and that's when the ride quality issues started. 99-04 B codes would help the ride quality.

We can get you setup with a kit and new rears for your budjet.

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My vote would be for carli with new rear leafs. Their custom valved shocks will take care of any bounce created by the lighter spring rates.


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I've got a stock 2006 supercab longbed FX4 F350 XLT. I run unloaded about 95% of the time. Any hauling I do will either be yard work, the two ATV's or maybe once a year grabbing a skid loader for my buddy. And it may see light off road/dirt road use when getting to the ATV trails or to my BIL's house. Most of the time though it spends on the highway.

Right now the rear end of the truck bounces so much on the highway (while unloaded) I have a natural vibrato while talking and driving. Plus I have found fat jiggling in places I didn't know I had fat.

Is there any 2.5" or 4" lift out there in a non-wallet killing price (under $3000) that calms down the rear end of this truck significantly without totally destroying the tow/haul weight? I know I'm asking for a lot but one can always hope.

Oh, I should note that I just put new HD Bilstein (yellow/blue's) on it and it did not help at all. I also have Sulastic rubber shackles on it and they really haven't made any difference where I need it most therefore I'll be removing them soon and going back to the stock shackles.


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Hello, I believe I replied to your email this morning but I'll post it here as well.

You are working with the toughest platform of any Ford has made in a long time... The longbed is a nightmare for ride quality, the 350 leaf pack is very stiff, and lastly, the 05-07 trucks have the non symmetrical short leaf pack that refuses to cycle properly.

I know all of the above as I have an 06 f250 undergoing a leaf conversion to the 08+ springs this week. I would honestly tell you that the kit I currently have on my truck (Commuter 2.0) is worth it's weight in gold on the highway. I would highly recommend picking up a commuter 2.0 (only available in 2.5" lift height) and a factory set of F250 springs to swap into your truck. This is what I have had on mine (being prototyped) for the past six weeks and I can honestly say the ride on the road is better than my King 2.5" shocks and night and day better than a stock truck!


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Yeah, I wasn't sure if Carli or Icon or Zone or etc had a kit that would work really well. I've been looking at all of their kits but it's hard to tell exactly which one would work best. For example Carli has their 'Commuter 2.0' system. In the description they state "Tighter street feel Driving Characteristics" and I would be afraid that this system may actually make the bouncing worse.
No sir, the tighter steering feel comes from our adjustable track bar which provides better steering input. The road noise is substantially lessened. The commuter ride awesome on the highway, very plush and controlled with better steering feel.

I will admit, when Sage (Carli) wanted me to take off my 2.5" kings to prototype the 2.0 commuters, I was a doubter as I like the 2.5" ride quality. I cannot believe what they turned out to be. The 2.0" ride better than my 2.5" on the street. I'm excited to see what they do with a full leaf pack replacement as that will be going on later this week!
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Hello, I believe I replied to your email this morning but I'll post it here as well.

You are working with the toughest platform of any Ford has made in a long time... The longbed is a nightmare for ride quality, the 350 leaf pack is very stiff, and lastly, the 05-07 trucks have the non symmetrical short leaf pack that refuses to cycle properly.

I know all of the above as I have an 06 f250 undergoing a leaf conversion to the 08+ springs this week. I would honestly tell you that the kit I currently have on my truck (Commuter 2.0) is worth it's weight in gold on the highway. I would highly recommend picking up a commuter 2.0 (only available in 2.5" lift height) and a factory set of F250 springs to swap into your truck. This is what I have had on mine (being prototyped) for the past six weeks and I can honestly say the ride on the road is better than my King 2.5" shocks and night and day better than a stock truck!




No sir, the tighter steering feel comes from our adjustable track bar which provides better steering input. The road noise is substantially lessened. The commuter ride awesome on the highway, very plush and controlled with better steering feel.

I will admit, when Sage (Carli) wanted me to take off my 2.5" kings to prototype the 2.0 commuters, I was a doubter as I like the 2.5" ride quality. I cannot believe what they turned out to be. The 2.0" ride better than my 2.5" on the street. I'm excited to see what they do with a full leaf pack replacement as that will be going on later this week!

Dammit, forgot you were doing this.... I just ordered a new set of oem c codes for my dually. Might have to try and cancel the order for now

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Dammit, forgot you were doing this.... I just ordered a new set of oem c codes for my dually. Might have to try and cancel the order for now
Forgot we were doing the conversion? Yup, this thurday/friday the conversion will be underway. We're going to test the leveling full springs with the commuters, then the 2.5" go back on as this truck is going with me to the 500 the following weekend.

I'll have some feedback on the springs after that trip for sure. The springs should be about the stock height of an f350 when installed.
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One of the best mods I ever did was put 08+ Carli full leaf pack on the back of my 05.
Dan- you guys decide whether you are going to move factory hangers forward or building new hangers?
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One of the best mods I ever did was put 08+ Carli full leaf pack on the back of my 05.
Dan- you guys decide whether you are going to move factory hangers forward or building new hangers?
I would be very interested in what you did. I know pmf makes brackets for this but what did you use?


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