Thanks 76. Are you having any issues with the tires rubbing any through out full cycle of the suspension ? With the research Ive done I'm pretty sure my setup will not rub turned at full bump. I'm just curious as to what everybody is running
Your wheel specs are perfect. With 37" tires, you need 5.5" of backspacing on a 9" wide wheel. Sage ran the stockers and rubbed the radius arm but his walkers don't rub at all!
As far as travel, we do not like quantifying it with numerical values. Everyone knows that these are huge straight axle trucks that will never have a ton of travel. It's how we tune the travel that matters. I'm sure 76 Hauler will vouch for the fact that our kits will outrun trucks with double the travel and generic shock valving! On the pintop kit, we redesign the buggy shock from the inside out to work for these diesel rigs. First, Sage reengineered the piston to to flow enough to meet the demands of these trucks, then custom tunes the valving in a custom length body with a pintop to bolt directly into the stock bucket.
We get more travel out of the ford 4.5 than we do out of the dodge 3" given the stock radius arm design. The dodge 6" kits have a tad more travel than our Ford kits but we're talking .5"-1"
Your wheel specs are perfect. With 37" tires, you need 5.5" of backspacing on a 9" wide wheel. Sage ran the stockers and rubbed the radius arm but his walkers don't rub at all!
As far as travel, we do not like quantifying it with numerical values. Everyone knows that these are huge straight axle trucks that will never have a ton of travel. It's how we tune the travel that matters. I'm sure 76 Hauler will vouch for the fact that our kits will outrun trucks with double the travel and generic shock valving! On the pintop kit, we redesign the buggy shock from the inside out to work for these diesel rigs. First, Sage reengineered the piston to to flow enough to meet the demands of these trucks, then custom tunes the valving in a custom length body with a pintop to bolt directly into the stock bucket.
We get more travel out of the ford 4.5 than we do out of the dodge 3" given the stock radius arm design. The dodge 6" kits have a tad more travel than our Ford kits but we're talking .5"-1"
Thanks I was just curious but 10" of travel is not too bad for these trucks I'm impressed. Currently trying to build a Ranger with some 3.0 Kings shooting for 20" travel front and rear strapped.
yep OC said it best, it's all in the valveing!! Before I stepped up to a fullsize, I had a 2006 Tacoma TRD 4x4 with 2.5 kings all around, 33' BFG's. My SD would spank that truck, and then tow it home!! I do rub my radius arms at full lock, but I'm ruinnin stockers. You should be fine w/ the Walkers.
I run 37's on 17x9's with 5"bs with zero rubbing on a 2008. If I could do it again I would have went with 5.5"BS since I still have some decent clearance between the tire and my arms at full lock.
Here's mine. Carli 4.5" pintop kit with full deaver spring pack and running 18 fuel rim's with 35" Mickey Thompson ATZs. Need to get some updated pictures this picture is with the Nitto's.
so with a 4.5" lift you can max out the suspension travel and run 37" on a 9" wheel. what size lift is needed to do the same with a 10" or 12" wide wheel?:beer:
That's the tough part. We're into Function over form here so we do not R&D for large wheels. The best ride will come from the largest tire and smallest wheel with proper inflation pressures. 17" and 18" wheels usually max out aroun 9"-10" wide. The problem we run into the the radius arm and fenders requires a certain backspacing to eliminte rub on both. Once you start widening the wheel, the tire flares out a bit and the encroatches on both. We have guys running 10" and 12" wide wheels but we recommend 9" wide because we know that works and will work toward the goal of the best possible ride!
As for lift height, we only do 2.5" (leveling) and 4.5" suspensions so I'm the worng one to ask. I would imagine the larger wheels would require less backspacing to clear the radius arm and the body would have to be above the tires in order to clearance it unless trimmed. I would say around an 8" if i was to spitball.
I will be putting the leveling kit on my 2006 within the next few weeks so you'll see those pictures shortly. I also have someone with it going on their 2012 so I will be snagging pictures of that as well! Initial ride reports are awesome; the owner of the 6.4 has stopped by the shop numerous times and is in love witht he kit. He can't believe it's the same truck!
Any pictures from the leveling kit on that '12' yet????
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