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Old 06-24-2012, 06:41 PM
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is there any better suspension option than the carli pin top???
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:50 AM
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I am a One Up Offroad fan. He has built suspension systems for drag trucks all the way up to monster size trucks!

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Old 06-25-2012, 09:40 AM
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If you have any questions on any of our Pure Performance products, give us or one of our dealers a shout. We will be more than happy to help you out. We have new direct fit 2 5/8 RR and 2 5/8 IFP shock packages available to compliment the rest of our line really soon.

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Old 06-27-2012, 01:38 PM
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is there any better suspension option than the carli pin top???
Short of doing the Carli King coilover kit with front and rear bypasses your best riding setup with be the Pintop with full leafs.

Another great setup is the Pure 4.5 Chase series with their 2 5/8" shocks. I run a hybrid setup of Pure and Carli components right now with the Pure 2.0 resi shocks and it rides a ton better than stock and does great off road.
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At the 4 to 4.5" lift height you will actually get better travel and better performance out of a coil spring and shock combo. Removing the OEM spring/shock mount from the frame and going up under the hood with a hoop to mount a set of coil overs would be the only way to get more travel. Unfortunely coil overs are limited in packaging by their construction. It sucks because we make coil overs too. Very disappointing.

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X2.. and if you want the best ride quality you must use 4 link arms...the stock arms bind.
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At the 4 to 4.5" lift height you will actually get better travel and better performance out of a coil spring and shock combo. Removing the OEM spring/shock mount from the frame and going up under the hood with a hoop to mount a set of coil overs would be the only way to get more travel. Unfortunely coil overs are limited in packaging by their construction. It sucks because we make coil overs too. Very disappointing.

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True the travel is decreased but that's a deceiving answer to someone who doesn't understand suspension. No one is getting 15" of travel out of these trucks, a .5-1" is negligable and, when properly tuned, nearly un-noticable... If what george is suggesting is a coilover/bypass setup, you're correct in that the travel will be shorter than an independant coil/shock setup but the way the travel is handled with tunable zones via the bypass tubes, the coilover/bypass will outperform nearly any other setup.

If just looking at the coilover (no front bypass), I would recommend the pintop based on the additional travel allowed by the independant setup. In most cases, the binding of the stock arm will not happen when running a stock sway bar given the lack of articulation allowed by one side at a time. Sage tested the 4-link and the radius arms; although the 4-Link (when properly setup) is a great setup, the stock radius arm is also awesome when dropped and supports just as much travel.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:31 PM
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You are correct, the radius arms in full axle movement conditions use up all the travel nicely, but when it comes to articulation and fast whoops that are uneven, you will notice alot less jounce in the vehicle with a good 4 link versus the radius arm setup. Just food for thought.

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Stock arms..can have Travel yes...ride better no not even close to 4 link arms..the stock arms bind. Ride quality is much more important than total travel that for the street will never be used.
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You are correct, the radius arms in full axle movement conditions use up all the travel nicely, but when it comes to articulation and fast whoops that are uneven, you will notice alot less jounce in the vehicle with a good 4 link versus the radius arm setup. Just food for thought.

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Stock arms..can have Travel yes...ride better no not even close to 4 link arms..the stock arms bind. Ride quality is much more important than total travel that for the street will never be used.
Way too broad a statement. Most would not be able to tell "seat of the pants feel" if they were in a 4-link vs. radius arm. Guys like us, most likely would given all other variables the same. To say the travel will never be used on the street is also incorrect. Further, to say the ride is not even close is a false statement. The ride is better with a 4-link but only under extreme conditions, as mentioned by Pure above, is it more than negligable.
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