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Best all around 4in Lift???

Looking for some info for what would be the best riding quality lift at about 4in. Been looking at Carli, BDS, Pure Performance, and Zone Off Road any other and what are the ups and downs to them?


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We have a ton of options coming out and our lineup should be completely updated pretty soon! We are going back to black! We also have 2 5/8 R.R. shock options and 2 5/8 IFP shock options coming out soon! If you have any questions, give us our one of our dealers a shout. We will be more than happy to help you out...

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Both Pure and Carli make some great riding kits and how good the ride will depend on shock choice and rear lift options. Going to full leafs as opposed to blocks or even mini packs will give you the best ride improvement in the rear. The other key is to use the custom valved shock setups as opposed to the standard off the shelf Bilstein 5100's and other shocks. In the Carli kits I would suggest either the Backcountry or Pintop kits and in the Pure kits I would team either the Triple Threat or Chase series kit with one of the Prodigy shock options.


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This is what I would put if I were to put a 4" lift kit on a 08 truck. I would go with an Icon kit set up with One Up Offroad ALA arms and to deal with axle wrap get a set of OUO traction bars/blocks. It will tighten up your steering (less wander), Zero bumpsteer, a better turning radius than stock (well depending on your choice of wheels), and absolutely no wheel hop with no adverse affect on ride quality. Also, it would be wise to upgrade your shocks. You can go from mild to wild in a heartbeat with shocks.

I would talk to Marty at Truck Toyz. He has many years of experience and isn't going to sell you something you don't need. Very knowledgeable guy in the industry.

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You will get some axle wrap with a heavy trailer, I can feel it when towing my gooseneck with some heavy equipment. My Deavers will wrap enough to make the tires rub the front of the rear fender well if I give it too much throttle on aceleration.
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This is what I would put if I were to put a 4" lift kit on a 08 truck. I would go with an Icon kit set up with One Up Offroad ALA arms and to deal with axle wrap get a set of OUO traction bars/blocks. It will tighten up your steering (less wander), Zero bumpsteer, a better turning radius than stock (well depending on your choice of wheels), and absolutely no wheel hop with no adverse affect on ride quality. Also, it would be wise to upgrade your shocks. You can go from mild to wild in a heartbeat with shocks.

I would talk to Marty at Truck Toyz. He has many years of experience and isn't going to sell you something you don't need. Very knowledgeable guy in the industry.


I would call George at 8Lug (SKYD RAM) and he will get you setup. He knows his way aroung the HD world and will keep you away from things that will adversly affect your ride quality if you're not planning to put down 600whp like traction blocks. A standard 4.5" suspension lift with a full spring pack in the rear will work wonders to clean up the ride of the truck and proper rear sping packs combat axle wrap.


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I would call George at 8Lug (SKYD RAM) and he will get you setup. He knows his way aroung the HD world and will keep you away from things that will adversly affect your ride quality if you're not planning to put down 600whp like traction blocks. A standard 4.5" suspension lift with a full spring pack in the rear will work wonders to clean up the ride of the truck and proper rear sping packs combat axle wrap.

The OP asked for an OPINION on what was the best all around 4" lift kit. If it were me, or my Dad, my buddy, whomever this is what I tell them to do. Marty at Truck Toyz and Dave at One Up Offroad have been doing this for a very long time. They are a wealth of information for the op, even if he doesn't chose to buy from him.

Enlighten me and please explain why my choice in setup would adversely affect ride quality?

Explain how a "proper rear spring pack" combats axle wrap?

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A "proper rear spring pack" will always ask (with a British accent) if it is permitted to wrap. D'uh.

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A "proper rear spring pack" will always ask (with a British accent) if it is permitted to wrap. D'uh.
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The OP has a sparten tuned truck. I bet he could get that truck hopping, skipping, banging through the gears down the road with a set of real soft springs and no traction bars in the rear. I bet he could REALLY get it going if he threw a trailer behind him. He probably would be dragging bottom too. LOL

I know! He could throw a set of KING bypass shocks in the rear and it would all go away!

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Any well tuned set of shocks will help reduce wrap. For bigger trucks, we would recommend at least going with a 2.5" diameter shock or larger! It does not have to be a Bypass Shock. It takes a good amount of knowledge to properly tune a bypass shock and they certainly are not for everyone! Especially everyone's budget! LOL.

Good luck with your build and your decision. It certainly seems like you are putting in your homework on how to get the best product possible.

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The OP has a sparten tuned truck. I bet he could get that truck hopping, skipping, banging through the gears down the road with a set of real soft springs and no traction bars in the rear. I bet he could REALLY get it going if he threw a trailer behind him. He probably would be dragging bottom too. LOL

I know! He could throw a set of KING bypass shocks in the rear and it would all go away!


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The OP asked for an OPINION on what was the best all around 4" lift kit. If it were me, or my Dad, my buddy, whomever this is what I tell them to do. Marty at Truck Toyz and Dave at One Up Offroad have been doing this for a very long time. They are a wealth of information for the op, even if he doesn't chose to buy from him.

Enlighten me and please explain why my choice in setup would adversely affect ride quality?

Explain how a "proper rear spring pack" combats axle wrap?
The setup you recommended replaces rear spring travel with a block to compensate for extreme amounts of horsepower. Doens't seem like an all-around solution, but as you said, this is an opinion based thread. A proper spring pack is one that is engineered to combat axle wrap, relocates the center pin to allow for larger tires and supports a decent amount of travel for a given lift height.

That is my opinion of a good "all around setup." As Pure said above, a good shock combination will help trememndously and pairing it with a good coil and spring pack will net you more travel, a more comfortable ride and the ability to combat axle wrap when throwing down decent power.


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