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post #1 of 17 Old 08-14-2011, 05:12 AM Thread Starter
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Front Tire Rubs Hellwig Sway Bar

Tried searching and didn't find anything. Recently installed a Hellwig front sway bar (#7676) on the truck described in my signature. Install was smooth and straight forward, but front left tire rubs on the sway bar when making right turns. I've tried adjusting the sway bar side to side and it makes no difference. I've also searched the web and found no instances of front tire rub with Hellwig sway bars on these trucks.

Any ideas or suggestions?

One thought I had is that the new 6,000 Ford coil springs I installed 2 years ago, with 1" ICON TEI spacers beneath, may have settled a bit. This combined with the adjustable track bar which I used to re-center my axle, may now be pushing the axle too far to the right, allowing the front left tire to contact the sway bar during tight right turns????

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Problem solved. Here's how:

First re-centered my front axle and it had very little effect on the rubbing. It lessened it, but didn't eliminate it.

I then tried to shift the sway bar toward the passenger's side by prying it with a bar, using the frame for leverage. No dice. The sway bar wouldn't move side to side.

In a last ditch approach I disconnected both end links from the sway bar and then loosened the sway bar mounting bolts. I then used a bar to slide the sway bar approximately 1/2" to the passenger's side (moved easily this time), and torqued the mounting bolts. After this I reconnected both end links, using a bar to gently lean both end links over slightly to meet the sway bar. Torqued the end link bolts down and rechecked clearances. I can now turn all the way to the right with no rubbing.

Project done.

2006 CC SB 4x4 6.0L
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DC Power 190a upper; DB Electric 200a lower alternator
295/65/20 Toyo MTs
PMF 3 Link
7,500LB Tuff Trucks Leveling Coils
Icon 2.5 piggyback CDC shocks
Dynatrac Free Spin Kit with Dynaloc Hubs
EDGE CTS Monitor w/ EGT, pressure, and temp sensors
Blue FPR Spring Kit
Twin F450 Auxiliary Springs
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Nice fix. Glad it worked out. Looking towards a helwig for my conversion. Did the bar come with all the brackets or did you have to reuse an factory stuff?

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Why use a aftermarket bar at all?
I've never seen a reason..99-04 use the factory front and the factory 30mm rear

'05-07 use the '08 front if you need a stiffer bar or adding 4 link arms and the 30"" rear
'08 up convert to the earlyer style rear bar..
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Why use a aftermarket bar at all?
I've never seen a reason..99-04 use the factory front and the factory 30mm rear

'05-07 use the '08 front if you need a stiffer bar or adding 4 link arms and the 30"" rear
'08 up convert to the earlyer style rear bar..
I didn't realize the 08 sway bar was any different than the one on the 05 - 07 trucks, or that it would even fit those trucks.

The Hellwig bar is much larger in diameter than the factory one, and comes with larger polyurethane bushings and new mounting clamps. Truck handles MUCH better than with the factory one - especially with the camper on-board.

2006 CC SB 4x4 6.0L
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PMF 3 Link
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Icon 2.5 piggyback CDC shocks
Dynatrac Free Spin Kit with Dynaloc Hubs
EDGE CTS Monitor w/ EGT, pressure, and temp sensors
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Nice fix. Glad it worked out. Looking towards a helwig for my conversion. Did the bar come with all the brackets or did you have to reuse an factory stuff?
Only two items need to be re-used:

1) The factory end links and bolts which connect them to the sway bar
2) The factory mounting bolts which hold the sway bar to the frame

2006 CC SB 4x4 6.0L
KC Stage 1.5
BPD 6 Phase 53v FICM, EGR, HD Oil Cooler, Bypass Oil Filter & Water Pump
ARP Studs w/ OEM Gaskets
DC Power 190a upper; DB Electric 200a lower alternator
295/65/20 Toyo MTs
PMF 3 Link
7,500LB Tuff Trucks Leveling Coils
Icon 2.5 piggyback CDC shocks
Dynatrac Free Spin Kit with Dynaloc Hubs
EDGE CTS Monitor w/ EGT, pressure, and temp sensors
Blue FPR Spring Kit
Twin F450 Auxiliary Springs
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Ok, I am throwing an '08 front axle on my '02 with a 4 link. Trying to figure out the sway bar portion of it. I havent looked to see where the 08 sway bar mounts and if my 02 has any holes there...

2002 F-350, was a DRW, now a SRW (but kept the dana 80 ARB's front and back, 4.88 gears on 37's
AIS, 4 inch MBRP, 38R ww2, IHI bellowed up pipes
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PMF coilovers and 4 link...front and back
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Mounts in front of the axle...
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The bar or the links? I thought the links mount on the axle and the bar is on the frame...

2002 F-350, was a DRW, now a SRW (but kept the dana 80 ARB's front and back, 4.88 gears on 37's
AIS, 4 inch MBRP, 38R ww2, IHI bellowed up pipes
PHP 6 Pos Chip, swamps 140 volt mod
PMF coilovers and 4 link...front and back
2008 D60 up front, 2002 D80 out back
Psc hydro assist with ported hydroboost, p pump
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The bar or the links? I thought the links mount on the axle and the bar is on the frame...
Correct. Bar on the frame. Links between bar and axle.

2006 CC SB 4x4 6.0L
KC Stage 1.5
BPD 6 Phase 53v FICM, EGR, HD Oil Cooler, Bypass Oil Filter & Water Pump
ARP Studs w/ OEM Gaskets
DC Power 190a upper; DB Electric 200a lower alternator
295/65/20 Toyo MTs
PMF 3 Link
7,500LB Tuff Trucks Leveling Coils
Icon 2.5 piggyback CDC shocks
Dynatrac Free Spin Kit with Dynaloc Hubs
EDGE CTS Monitor w/ EGT, pressure, and temp sensors
Blue FPR Spring Kit
Twin F450 Auxiliary Springs
Banks Monster Exhaust
Truetrac rear/E locker Front with 4.11s
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