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Old 05-22-2008, 03:29 AM
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Ford's new 4.4-liter diesel




Details, plans for Ford's new 4.4-liter diesel emerge
April 21, 2008

By Andrew Strieber

Ford's recent meeting with dealers in Las Vegas has provided a wealth of information about upcoming Blue Oval products, including a long-rumored new F-150 Raptor SVT pickup good for (at least) 380-horsepower. Now word of another major product under development has surfaced as well: at the meeting dealers were shown Ford's new turbodiesel engine, which the automaker plans to feature in a variety of vehicles.




The 4.4-liter turbo V-8, closely related to the 3.6-liter turbodiesel installed in European Jaguars and Land Rovers, is being designed in-house to be built at the automaker's Chihuahua, Mexico engine plant. Dealers were presented with a comparison between the new engine and the current 5.4-liter V-8 found in many of Ford's larger vehicles, with the diesel achieving nine percent more horsepower, 15 percent more lb-ft. of torque, and 20 percent better fuel economy, respectively. The automaker says 0 to 60 times in the two engines will be about the same. In addition, Ford is developing a urea injection system along the lines of Mercedes' Bluetec diesels to keep the new 4.4-liter running clean.



The new diesel will appear in many of the expected places such as the F-150, Super Duty, and E-Series large vans. However the automaker is also planning to install it in the Expedition and Navigator, giving large SUV-buyers the option to enjoy significant fuel savings without any loss in power or the added complexity of a hybrid system. Hopefully this new engine is only the beginning, and Ford will offer other oil-burners across its lineup in the future. After all, if Navigator shoppers can be sold on the benefits of a diesel, who's to say Fusion and Edge buyers won't be as well?

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Old 05-22-2008, 03:50 AM
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should be a sweet engine. I dont like the idea of injecting any cr@p into my motor to cut emisions tho. this global warming B.S. needs to stop at some point.
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Old 05-22-2008, 03:54 AM
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I was just reading about this in diesel tech magazine.

Here are a few more details, the 4.4L is slated to be an option in the F150 as early as 2009, and they claim this motor puts out 325 hp & 520 ft. lb. of torque.

Scheduled to be released in late 2009 is GM's 4.5L Duramax for their 1/2 ton trucks & H2

No actual press release yet, but Dodge has been rumored to be gearing up to release their 1/2 ton Cummins shortly after the Ford / Chevy introductions
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Old 05-22-2008, 04:35 AM
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throw solid 8 lug alxes under the new f150 supercrew and i might be interested
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:19 AM
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Looks like a great motor. At this point though with diesel costing so much i would really be interested in the fuel economy. Putting an efficient diesel motor in a lighter truck with the right gears hopefully will have some good numbers. Who wouldn't want a truck that has a cushy ride, can still haul stuff with and get maybe 25-30 mpg's?
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:10 AM
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looks like I am tradin' the wife's trailblazer for a expow/ a diesel or a f150 diesel finaly I will a diesel ya me
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:48 AM
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Looks like a great motor. At this point though with diesel costing so much i would really be interested in the fuel economy. Putting an efficient diesel motor in a lighter truck with the right gears hopefully will have some good numbers. Who wouldn't want a truck that has a cushy ride, can still haul stuff with and get maybe 25-30 mpg's?
That's what we would hope for, but the article estimated 20% better fuel economy. If the F-150 gets 12 mpg city now, that's only 14.4 mpg in the city with diesel. When you fact in the added price of putting the diesel in the truck and then the price of the diesel fuel itself, are you really getting that much better mileage? Just me thinking out loud...
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:21 AM
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good point. Id think that by now they shuld be able to design a deisel that in a lighter vehicle like the F150 should be able to get 25-30 MPG. When i bought my 250 it was worth it because diesel was signifcantly lower than gas and i was getting 18-20 mpg. Now with the cost of diesel?

whatever happened to the hydrualic F150 concept of 60 MPG?
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:29 AM
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That's what we would hope for, but the article estimated 20% better fuel economy. If the F-150 gets 12 mpg city now, that's only 14.4 mpg in the city with diesel. When you fact in the added price of putting the diesel in the truck and then the price of the diesel fuel itself, are you really getting that much better mileage? Just me thinking out loud...
The trend is to promote more diesel vehicles because Bio-D made from Algea will be replacing some of our oil imports very soon. But that can not happen untill some ordinary folks trade in there gas guzzler SUVs and buy a light diesel SUV.
15% diesels on the road by 2015 i think is there target. Right now its like 1% of the drivers in america drive a diesel.
They really are banking on making Bio-D from Algea. This Ethinol BS is not panning out so they want to get away from producing fuel from food crops.
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The trend is to promote more diesel vehicles because Bio-D made from Algea will be replacing some of our oil imports very soon. But that can not happen untill some ordinary folks trade in there gas guzzler SUVs and buy a light diesel SUV.
15% diesels on the road by 2015 i think is there target. Right now its like 1% of the drivers in america drive a diesel.
They really are banking on making Bio-D from Algea. This Ethinol BS is not panning out so they want to get away from producing fuel from food crops.
That's all fine until the Dems stop us from using our own algea to keep us from disrupting the one-eyed-one-horned-flying-purple-people-eater and we have to start importing it.
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