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Old 02-01-2008, 11:51 AM
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ODU experiment on turning sewage into algae-based biodiesel is flourishing

Thanks to Mica for the find - it's an "interresting" article to say the least.

By Scott Harper
The Virginian-Pilot
© January 19, 2008
NORFOLK

The tanks are up and running and the slime is growing nicely – thick and green, just the way algae should be.

Friday was a good day to be on the roof of the local sewage plant, where scientists from Old Dominion University were all smiles as they inspected their promising experiment for turning algae into biodiesel fuel.

“Look at the color,” said Margaret Mulholland, an ODU professor, pointing to emerald-green slime growing in plastic tanks filled with treated sewage. “Just wait until this summer. It’ll be a darker green, and in clumps.”

Why not be excited? Their pilot project is cited by the governor whenever he talks about alternative energy in Virginia; state and national media have picked up on the story; the Pentagon is interested; potential investors are calling.

In this era of clean and renewable energy development, researchers at other universities are conducting similar experiments with algae and biofuels. But ODU is on a slightly different and potentially important path, using municipal sewage to generate its slimy fuel supply.

Their first experiment is being conducted atop a sewage treatment plant run by the Hampton Roads Sanitation District, next door to ODU.

The timing could not be better. Virginia, like its neighboring states, is under pressure to reduce nutrient pollution now choking the Chesapeake Bay, and much of the excessive nitrogen and phosphorus comes from sources that include factories, slaughterhouses and sewage plants.

So, conceivably, the ODU technology could kill several birds with one stone. Nutrient-rich wastewater from agriculture, industry and municipal sewage could be piped to and purged at algae-growing stations. Biofuels could be produced. And less nitrogen and phosphorus would enter the Bay.

Add one other side benefit: a reduction in greenhouse gases. Algae love to eat carbon dioxide.

So the ODU scientists think that if carbon emissions spewed by power plants could instead be captured and fed to their algae, the project could help fight global warming.

The pilot project atop the local plant, at best, could generate about 200 gallons of biodiesel a day, worth an estimated $600,000 a year.

“Granted, that’s not a lot,” said Patrick Hatcher, the project leader and an ODU professor of chemistry and biochemistry. “But if you consider that this could be done at sewage plants across the country, then you’re talking about a big, big thing.”

The algae project received about $500,000 last year from state coffers – the most money dedicated to a state-aided research of alternative energies.

Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, who says he keeps a small bottle of algae-based fuel on his desk, has proposed increasing state funds for this and other green research to $2.3 million over the next two years.

Hatcher hopes to push that total to $4.8 million, and he is scheduled to urge lawmakers to do so when he testifies next week before General Assembly money committees.

Also next week, ODU scientists will meet with board members of the Hampton Roads Sanitation District to chart just how far both parties want to pursue their sewage-to-algae partnership.

Hatcher said ODU already is joining hands with other universities to take advantage of the Defense Department’s interest in developing algae-based, alternative jet fuels.

The Pentagon does not want to pay more than $1.50 per gallon of green jet fuel.

Hatcher hopes that, if the government can get financial credits for reducing nutrient pollution by embracing sewage-grown algae, their proposal might just fly.

For now, the experiment is awaiting warmer weather, when algae can grow faster and thicker.

A graduate student checks the tanks on the roof almost every day, sampling the sewage and measuring algae growth. Harvesting of mature slime is expected to start soon, as early as next week, said Andrew Gordon, a biology professor working on the project.

Gordon was on the rooftop Friday, describing the harvesting process.

After about three days in the growing tanks, the algae will be scooped from the last container with a fine-mesh bag. They will be air-dried until they resemble a small cake, then blasted into a high-temperature converter, which captures the natural oils within algae and creates the biodiesel.

“We know we can do it; we’re making biodiesel now,” Hatcher said. “The real question is how far this technology can go.”


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Old 02-01-2008, 02:29 PM
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turning poo into Bio fuel! not exactly but it was a funny thought.
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:31 PM
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Dude if your rig smells like fries on old fast food oil what does THIS smell like?
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:50 PM
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Looks like there not very good at Math. 200gl a day X 365 days=73,000 gl a year, worth $600,000 / 73,000gl = $8.219 a gl. Pentigon does not want to pay more than $1.50 a gl.

They better stick with science and leave the business to somebody else.

I don't want to pay more than Buck 50 either.
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:58 PM
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I've been following this locally here. ODU is just on the other side of the James River from me.

It sounds promising. maybe not right away, but promising none the less.

I've got a couple of friends that are Engineers at NASA Langley and Jefferson Labs and they are privvy to some of the data and they are excited about it.

They tried to explain it to me and I got lost after they said algea...
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Old 02-01-2008, 09:12 PM
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That's awesome... All I know is fuel costs are not going to go down. Alternatives are certainly worth looking at. I just hope the best one for everyone involved wins, and that it's not "political" in it's coming out on top -- Like corn fuel (e85)
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Old 02-02-2008, 03:05 PM
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waste water treatment plants.

a little off topic here but along the same lines. waste water treatment plants have methane burners that burn a 3 foot tall flame 24/7 that could be used to fuel steam powered electric turbines.

one plant wouldnt make a huge difrence but think if every wase water treatment plant in the U.s was producing its own power and making algea for bio diesel.
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:39 PM
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Algae biodiesel

I've read about this process going on in Arizona in the desert. It just goes to show you there is a ton of energy in waste that we produce. Every drop of biodiesel or ethanol or or other power source we produce is less we need to import from foreign and/or hostile countries. Also, the more power we produce here the less effect economic growth in China, India, or any other developing country has on our energy prices.
I, for one, am sick and tired of everytime there's a hiccup in a supply line in some foreign country - the price of oil goes up / everytime there might be some storm in the general vicinity of a drilling platform , the price of oil goes up. / everytime the temperature drops a few degrees here in the Northeast , the price of oil goes up. And oh yeah , everytime there is good economic news (infrequent as it is lately.), the price of oil goes up.
Sorry about the ranting and raving, but when I bought my first PSD in 1998 I bought on-road diesel for between 85 and 95 cents per gallon. My last fill up I paid $3.43 per gallon. I bought a biodiesel processor and am collecting oil, just waitng for the weather to warm up so I can feed my 6.0 Canola biodiesel. Also, I purchased a large solar power system to power my house, so with the exception of my two cars and 4-wheeler (my lawnmower is a Kubota diesel), I will be virtually petroleum free by summer.
Screw OPEC, China, wasteful people and everyone else who got us in this situation!
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:14 AM
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a little off topic here but along the same lines. waste water treatment plants have methane burners that burn a 3 foot tall flame 24/7 that could be used to fuel steam powered electric turbines.

one plant wouldnt make a huge difrence but think if every wase water treatment plant in the U.s was producing its own power and making algea for bio diesel.
Not all waste water treatment plants have them. I used to work for a company that had 8 WWTP's and none of them burned methane.

The landfill that we took the "sludge" (dried up solids) to did have a methane flame burning, but it wasn't very big.
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Old 02-04-2008, 03:46 PM
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Not all waste water treatment plants have them. I used to work for a company that had 8 WWTP's and none of them burned methane.

The landfill that we took the "sludge" (dried up solids) to did have a methane flame burning, but it wasn't very big.
no not all of them class 3 and above do.

speaking of land fills. they could shred and burn trash to fuel powerplants like they use coal for right now as well.
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