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RESISTANCE TO SOCIALISM IS BUILDING

By Coach Dave Daubenmire
February 5, 2009
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“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” --Declaration of Independence July 4, 1176.

Duty- “Something that one is expected or required to do by moral or legal obligation.”

Rights- “Something that is due to a person or governmental body by law, tradition, or nature.”

We hear a lot these days about our “rights”, but we hear very little about our “duties.” Duty is not the same as rights. If there is any hope to the saving of our Republic it is time that we once again began to talk about our duties.

Let me say right up front folks that this is serious stuff. There are things going on in America that most people do not want to believe. In fact, whenever you hear someone bring up some of the things I am going to talk about the immediate reaction by most is to try and marginalize anyone who would insinuate such radical stuff.

“You are too black-helicopter for me, Coach. I don’t buy into the whole conspiracy nonsense that you hear from the lunatic fringe. You would better spend your time just preaching the Gospel.”

Well, I want you to know that much of what is going on in America is scary to me as well. I too, would like to stick my head in the sand and pretend as if none of this was happening. But we have been here before. As hard as it is to swallow, this great nation that many fought and died for is in the midst of a revolution. The land of free and the home of the brave is rapidly becoming neither. Our freedoms are being stripped from us daily, and it is harder and harder to find any courage anywhere.

But we have been here before. Two hundred and thirty-three years ago a band of brave men reached the point where they determined that enough was enough. As we used to be taught in our schools, one brave man rose to his feet and said “Give me liberty or give me death.” (You will be inspired to read what Patrick Henry had to say).

Patrick Henry and his fellow patriots signed their death warrants on July 4, 1776. As a result most would lose everything they had. But they understood one thing that today we no longer get. Their lives were not as valuable to them as ours are to us. They were a generation who lived their lives for the benefit of the next. They understood that their duty was to “secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.” Aren’t you glad they “did their duty?”

But things were different for them than they are for us today. They were living under a King who didn’t believe in such things as God-given rights. The King was the law, and the King made the law. The idea of a government “of the people, by the people, and for the people,” was nothing more than a wild-eyed pipe dream to most in the colonies. Thank God for men of vision, men of courage, and men of sacrifice.

Do we have the courage to live like that today? Are there brave men still living in America today who will live out the cry of Patrick Henry’s heart? Let me assure you of this, those who would desire to see America free of tyranny, and are not afraid to say-so, face the same fate as the Founders. Tyrannical leaders will not give up their power freely. Freedom must be seized.

I am reminded today, after watching the Super Bowl, of former Cardinal Pat Tillman’s decision to trade a professional football career for a tour of duty in the mountains of Afghanistan. That decision cost him his life. When asked why he walked away from the NFL to fight for his nation, Tillman responded, "My great-grandfather fought in Pearl Harbor, my family has fought in five wars, and I haven't done a damn thing as far as laying myself on the line like that."

Pat Tillman understood duty.

Are you aware that today, as you sit in the comfort of your home, a bill is the legislature that will create detention camps designed to “create the type of detention center that those concerned about use of the military in domestic affairs fear could be used as concentration camps for political dissidents, such as occurred in Nazi Germany.”


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That another “tax cheat” is being appointed to the Obama Cabinet? That Mayor Bloomberg wants to install “unlimited intersection cameras? That an environmental wacko is proposing a two-child per family limit? That the Obama administration wants to silence the loyal opposition through the Fairness Doctrine? That the Feds want to take over the Campus Police at our universities? That the “government stimulus” will give checks to illegals? That steps are being taken to create a “civilian workforce” to monitor America? That homosexual indoctrination in our government schools is shifting into high gear? That ACORN has received $5.2 from the stimulus package to continue the voter fraud that has changed the electoral map of the nation? That One World Government is clearly within the sights of the elites? That parents have no rights when dealing with the “public schools?” That we are being pressured towards Global Governance? That we are trading capitalism for socialism? That if they can’t get your guns they will prevent you from getting ammo? That American citizens have lost control of their government.? That the Feds want your medical records?
That pastors are being paid to work for FEMA? That Obama is being exposed as the Marxist many warned he was? That Alan Stang is right?

And that is just for starters. It looks like the “lunatic fringe” hasn’t been wasting time watching Oprah or American Idol.

It is obvious that Pastors are either too cowardly or two worldly to do their duty. Stop waiting on them. One day they will give account for their cowardice. Our elected officials have sworn an oath to protect us from enemies “foreign and domestic” yet they are ignoring their duty, thereby empowering our domestic enemies. Our republican form of government was created to operate within the restraints of a Constitution, but the judges regularly ignore or re-interpret it. We change Presidents but the ruling oligarchy only switch seats.

So, let’s stop worrying so much about our rights and ask ourselves what is our duty? What kind of country do we want to leave to our children? Who can we count on to restore our freedoms? Who did the colonists turn to?

"Honor, justice, and humanity, forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors, and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us. We cannot endure the infamy and guilt of resigning succeeding generations to that wretchedness which inevitably awaits them if we basely entail hereditary bondage on them." --Thomas Jefferson

"What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." --Thomas Jefferson

Fight and you may die. Run and you will live at least awhile. And dying in your bed many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance, to come back here as young men and tell our enemies that they may take our lives but they will never take our freedom!" --William Wallace

We Americans are so used to hiring someone to do the dirty work. It is the scourge of our prosperity. We hire folks to mow our yards, plant our gardens, paint our houses, clean our gutters, pick up our trash, un-plug our toilets, rake our leaves, and fight for our freedom. It is time that all of us who love freedom made the decision that it is time to stand up for our posterity. As Jefferson told us, it is our duty.

I know it is scary, I know you don’t want to come out of your comfort zone. I know you don’t want to believe that the freedom you enjoy today will not be passed to your children and grand-children. We foolishly believe that those in power will return the power that they have fought so hard to amass.

Eventually you will get it…understand that there is a small group of men who are really in control. When your eyes are finally opened I pray that it is not too late.

There is a tsunami of resistance beginning to build all across this nation. It is underground, below the radar screen, but visible to the powers that be on their culture seismographs. We will all soon have to decide whether we stand with the people…or with the government. “Duty is ours; results are God’s.”

(Listen as you read!) “Oh what I would do to have
The kind of strength it takes to stand before a giant with just a sling and a stone.
Surrounded by the sound of a thousand warriors shaking in their armor
Wishing they'd have had the strength to stand.

But the giant's calling out my name and he laughs at me,
Reminding me of all the times I've tried before and failed.
The giant keeps on telling me time and time again. "Boy you'll never win!"
"You'll never win!"

Is that Patrick Henry I hear?

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Umm the Declaration of Independence was not signed in the year 1176

Oh and most Bankers and Wall St folks are Republican. The champions of Capitalism that are the same ones screaming for Socialist type government help... Why? because they are not willing to Reap what they have Sewn! Unbridled greed needs to have its consequences and they are not will to pay for their own actions and irresponsibility....

I voted for Obama, But I am against the Stimulus, TARP and the Bailout of auto industry. America has always held that capitalism is the golden goose. so It needs to stick to its guns and take the good with the bad.... By doing these socialist actions we are just giving fuel to our enemies beliefs..
Oh and May I remind you that McCain voted for and campaigned in favor of the Bush Administrations TARP Act....
This is just politicians trying to win votes by becoming a Nanny state and telling Americans they don't have to pay the price of their own and their governments irresponsibility.. You over extended your credit, bought houses and vehicles you could not really afford and let your consumerist greed run amuck. Now you want government to baby you so you don't suffer the concequences

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Rights- “Something that is due to a person or governmental body by law, tradition, or nature.”

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Umm the Declaration of Independence was not signed in the year 1176

Oh and most Bankers and Wall St folks are Republican. Prove it. Just because you say this doesn't make it a fact. The champions of Capitalism that are the same ones screaming for Socialist type government help...Really??? I see liberal / socialists / fascist making a grab for my freedoms. It is the LIBERAL / SOCIALIST / FASCIST that you voted for that are screaming for a socialist governemnt. Why? because they are not willing to Reap what they have Sewn! Unbridled greed needs to have its consequences and they are not will to pay for their own actions and irresponsibility....Do you have stop and think before you start spewing your nonsense? Your socialist buddies are knee deep in this sh!t (greed) as well. I don't see pelosi, boxer, reed, frank, durbin, kennedy or any other of the irresposipble idiots you seem to follow after living a modest life. Many of these people are millionaires. Do you think that they got wealthy without any greed in them?

I voted for Obama Congratulations on being part of the problem, But I am against the Stimulus, TARP and the Bailout of auto industry. America has always held that capitalism is the golden goose. so It needs to stick to its guns and take the good with the bad....The socialist leader you voted for and his soialists buddies won't let this happen. By doing these socialist actions we are just giving fuel to our enemies beliefs..Ummm, you voted for the socialist
Oh and May I remind you that McCain voted for and campaigned in favor of the Bush Administrations TARP Act.... SO? If he had been elected he wouldn't have been making a power grab (moving census to the white house...imagine the liberal uproar) or increasing the federal gov't the way the knothead you voted for is doing. And as much as this annoys the hell out of a lot of your types...........many of our votes were for Palin.....not McCain.
This is just politicians trying to win votes by becoming a Nanny state and telling Americans they don't have to pay the price of their own and their governments irresponsibility.. You over extended your credit, bought houses and vehicles you could not really afford and let your consumerist greed run amuck. Now you want government to baby you so you don't suffer the concequences. Again, do you have stop and think before you start spewing your nonsense? Your socialist buddies are knee deep in this sh!t, this time consumerist greed a you call it, as well. And not all of were / are irresponsible with our money. But thank you for painting with a broad brush and entertaining us with your pompus donkey

I fear for the kids you will educate one day.

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Texas RN, My comments are for the government in general and business in general.... If they were willing to accept the consequences of their action they would not be groveling to government for bailout's these financial and business entities are supposed to be the pillar of capitalism.
I apologize, this is the point I am trying to make is that you cannot or do not want to see the total hipocracy of those who have so fiercely resisted any government intervention or ownership in here business now begging for it rather than take the fall and get on with their lives... they would rather have big brother watch over them than give up there current excessive ways of living...
Just cuz I voted for someone does not mean I have to agree with everything the do.... Besides like a typical politician (and McCain would be no different if he had a republican congress) he is breaking his campaign promises.. He is not doing much to work across the isle... Now, had he vetoed the stimulus bill and said I won't sign it until X # of Republicans vote for it then send it back and force congress to work for a more bipartisan measure, I would have really applauded that action... What would you have said if he did that?
And what the Heck are you talking about you voted for Palin not McCain... that just makes no sense to me so do you care to explain what you mean.
"Really??? I see liberal / socialists / fascist making a grab for my freedoms. It is the LIBERAL / SOCIALIST / FASCIST that you voted for that are screaming for a socialist governemnt. " I said nothing about anyone taking your freedoms. By I know you can't see beyond the end of the barrel of your gun
Besides I didn't want a president that feels he needs to go to war with every nation that does not think the way he does... How are u supposed to solve a problem if you refuse to talk to the party you have a problem with You might as well invade socialist Canada

Oh and like McCain is not part of the problem... He owns so many properties he does not even know how many homes he owns!!!

As for your Final response, my comment did not single you out, It was directed at every American who has made many irresponsible life and financial decisions AND does not want to take responsibility for it. Instead they want a bailout from tax paying responsible Americans Like you and me...
It was the Banks and Wall street that created the Recession snowball with their risky subprime loans and poor investments with a lack of equity to back up their actions. Had they been Responsible and made sure they had sufficient equity too cover the subprime market failure we would not be in this situation... equally those who gambled with getting these loans and are now in default are the type of folks I am talking about... When I bought my home I knew there was no way I could make a pament triple or more of what I have now....

Back to the OP topic I don't think the resistance to socialism is building.. it has always been part of the american values... However it was never was confronted because our previous status quo was not challanged by current economic and social conditions....
So back to my original statement... People and business need to stop asking for handouts to protect their financial well being when it was caused by their own irresponsible choices. I am stressing the hypocritical nature of this whole Fiasco...
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Texas RN, My comments are for the government in general and business in general.... If they were willing to accept the consequences of their action they would not be groveling to government for bailout's these financial and business entities are supposed to be the pillar of capitalism.
Alot of this fiasco was started by the government and the implementation of the CRA, coercing the banks into making loans that people could not repay and refusing to addrss bad funding practices. Policies implemented by liberals. Then you have ACORN going into banks and businesses and threatening them with the label of racsist if they don't fall in line. Too bad the businessmen and women didn't have the balls to stand up to them. ACORN (community activists), played a huge role in these activites.......the guy you voted for....Obama (a former community activist).
I apologize, this is the point I am trying to make is that you cannot or do not want to see the total hipocracy of those who have so fiercely resisted any government intervention As much as you hate the man, Bush did push for tighter controls on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Frank, and the other liberals refused saying the institutions were sound...........oops got that on wrong didn't they. or ownership in here business now begging for it Some of the banks were forced to take the money, others refused. I have an evil banker friend who is the co-owner of a bank and they refused the bailout as well.rather than take the fall and get on with their lives... they would rather have big brother watch over them than give up there current excessive ways of living...All this would take is for Obama and company to say "No" and ride out the consequences. But instead they are throwing 1 point something trillion (when it's all said and done) at the problem. As someone who voted for Obama but opposes this action, please let us know the name of the senator or representative you notified to voice your dismay with this plan.
Just cuz I voted for someone does not mean I have to agree with everything the do.... Besides like a typical politician (and McCain would be no different if he had a republican congress) he is breaking his campaign promises..So business as usual is ok with you? I'd be one livid mofo if McCain got elected by saying one thing and doing another. Further more, I did vote democrat in this past election. I voted against my senator and representative because I am tired of this BS. Did you have the cajones to do the same thing or did you just go straight party? He is not doing much to work across the isle... Now, had he vetoed the stimulus bill and said I won't sign it until X # of Republicans vote for it then send it back and force congress to work for a more bipartisan measure, I would have really applauded that action... What would you have said if he did that?I would have said what I have said all along. N O Baliout. Sucks and tough times are going to follow, but let it run it's course now, not spend a trillion good effin dollars after bad. It's called tough love and sometimes it just has to be done.
And what the Heck are you talking about you voted for Palin not McCain... that just makes no sense to me so do you care to explain what you mean. Simple, I had high hopes that Palin would wait in the wings for 4 years and then be our next real conservative president. Therefore, my vote was for her, I simply had to tolerate McCain for 4 years.
"Really??? I see liberal / socialists / fascist making a grab for my freedoms. It is the LIBERAL / SOCIALIST / FASCIST that you voted for that are screaming for a socialist governemnt. " I said nothing about anyone taking your freedoms. This was in reply to your ill concieved notion that capitalists are now seeking a socialist government
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The champions of Capitalism that are the same ones screaming for Socialist type government help...
look no further than the stock market to see how wrong you are on this. Real capitalist want no part of a socialist government. You said these people want socialism, I brought in the fact that socialist want to rein in personal freedoms. Do we really need to go down this road? I am more than happy to .
By I know you can't see beyond the end of the barrel of your gun Since you decided bring firearms into this for some odd reason, I gladly thank the Second Ammendment for this right......but wait I seem to recall you blathering about how no one was going to take your guns......so your point here is........
Besides I didn't want a president that feels he needs to go to war with every nation that does not think the way he does So what will you say the first time Obama attacks a country that doesn't think the same way we do......that is after all how confrontations start.... How are u supposed to solve a problem if you refuse to talk to the party you have a problem with You might as well invade socialist Canada Maybe you haven't kept up with current events.....recently a Polish man was beheaded by terrorists in Afghanistan. Enlighten me again, as I know myself and others have challenged you before, without an answer I might add: How do you negotiate with someone who wants to kill you because you don't follow their religion. How do you reason with people who would send their CHILDREN off as homicide bombers. We seemed to have disagreed with N. Korea and last I checked we hadn't gone to war with them, don't like Cuba, no war there, don't agreee with the genocide in Sudan, no ground war or air war there at last check. Vehemently opposed to Iran having nukes................just did a google search............guess what, no American invasion or attacks going on there either . So we kick the sh!t out of one dirt bag and are fighting the bad guys on their turf in Iraq and Afghanistan and you constitute this as going to war with the world?


Oh and like McCain is not part of the problem... He owns so many properties he does not even know how many homes he owns!!! Here I did some home work for you: The McCain family owns properties in multiple states under several names. ... trusts and companies controlled by Cindy McCain generally own the properties. ...
politifact.com
another link http://www.nytimes.com/ref/us/politics/mccain-properties.html
How awesome is it that Cindy's dad does well for himself, passes on money to his family, they are smart enough to invest it wisely, and now can claim 10 properties and millions of dollars. Good for them. Or should they, as Obama wants, spread the wealth around?

As for your Final response, my comment did not single you out I never took it that way, It was directed at every American who has made many irresponsible life and financial decisions AND does not want to take responsibility for it. Instead they want a bailout from tax paying responsible Americans Like you and me... ]
It was the Banks and Wall street that created the Recession Which is it the banks and wall street or is it "every American who has made many irresponsible life and financial decisions AND does not want to take responsibility for it?" I say the government plays a big role for the policies it instituted snowball with their risky subprime loans Refer to first paragraphand poor investments with a lack of equity to back up their actions. Had they been Responsible and made sure they had sufficient equity too cover the subprime market failure we would not be in this situation... equally those who gambled with getting these loans and are now in default are the type of folks I am talking about... When I bought my home I knew there was no way I could make a pament triple or more of what I have now....

Back to the OP topic I don't think the resistance to socialism is building. Watch the news......I promise you it is.. it has always been part of the american values... However it was never was confronted because our previous status quo was not challanged by current economic and social conditions....
So back to my original statement... People and business need to stop asking for handouts to protect their financial well being when it was caused by their own irresponsible choices. No argument from me.I am stressing the hypocritical nature of this whole Fiasco...
After rereading this I believe you to be a very confused person, and this is not to be taken as a personal attack.
My proof:
1) You voted for a guy who is an admitted socialist, but you berate people / businesses who want governement intervention, saying "People and business need to stop asking for handouts to protect their financial well being when it was caused by their own irresponsible choices." Indicating you believe in personal responsibility, (a conservative principle), something that socialism takes away.

2) Then you take this line of personal responsibility and switch over to blaming businesses and banks for this mess. A liberal / socialists anthem.

3) No command of the facts: "they would rather have big brother watch over them than give up there current excessive ways of living (your words)." Excutives on Wall Street who participate in the bailout are to have their salaries limited to 500K, not the multi millions they had been receiving.

4) You seem to believe that extremist can be reasoned with.

5) You make assertions with no facts or proof:"Oh and most Bankers and Wall St folks are Republican."

Craig

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Cheers Texas RN !!!

It was clear to me what Obama's agenda was AND it is not a surprise to many. If you voted for Obama, you voted for socialism, big government, new poverty programs to shackle more American's, giving more of my taxpayer dollars abroad to terrorists, getting rid of our government checks and balances (Reid/Pelosi in charge-with Obama as CIC, the wolves have been let in the proverbial hen house!), ACORN given millions to sponsor their form of "terrorism", ah the list goes on and on.

After several years of Pelosi and Reid blocking progress for America and blasting President Bush, all of a sudden now they chastise anybody who is not in support of the liberal programs. Their mantra of being inclusive is for the opposition to go along with their socialist agenda.

Conservatives in government have to return to their principles and grow some balls!
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ill read when i have time... i think this might blow up
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ill read when i have time... i think this might blow up
It won't blow up, liberals are easy............they NEVER provide facts to backup their socialistic tendancies, if they did they would be exposed.

Oh and another thing they will run and hide, never to be seen from again, we have several of these here.
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