A DREAM COME TRUE!!!

[mschn99]

Originally Posted by oregoncalfroper

If you don't mind what do you do?

Ford engine master tech was a master tech at 26 years old....most people are in their mid thirties when they achieve this. No formal schooling....just hard work....but Liberals just think they should be presented this oppertunity

[oregoncalfroper]

Originally Posted by Curlysue

Thank you! Someone finally answered. However, if you are really worried about the poor and middle classes, shouldn't you be worried about Obama's plan to tax businesses and the wealthy, who provide wages for their employees? Do you really think that while the government is taking their money that they will want to pay their employees more?

Some people have the idea that when a big corporation makes more they pay they're employees more....errrrrr false, corporate America looks to exploit the working class at every chance they get, they're only allegiance is to the shareholder.

“Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.” — Abraham Lincoln’s Message to Congress, Dec. 3, 1861.

[mschn99]

Originally Posted by oregoncalfroper

Some people have the idea that when a big corporation makes more they pay they're employees more....errrrrr false, corporate America looks to exploit the working class at every chance they get, they're only allegiance is to the shareholder.

“Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.” — Abraham Lincoln’s Message to Congress, Dec. 3, 1861.

She didnt say the businesses were gonna make more thus paying thier employees more....

she said the businesses would make less.....thus cutting into thier profits....which will in turn cut the employees saleries by the same business greed you JUST DESCRIBED in the opposite way.......

[kinghawg98]

Did it ever occur that shareholders just might be workers?

The idea of taxing the hell out of big companies is kind of like raising the price of lemmons when your running a lemmonade stand. Your gonna pass the increase right down to the customer.

[mschn99]

Originally Posted by Jon

The idea of taxing the hell out of big companies is kind of like raising the price of lemmons when your running a lemmonade stand. Your gonna pass the increase right down to the customer.

PLEASE!!!!! DO NOT BRING ANY COMMON SENCE INTO THIS THREAD


there are liberals presant and they just wont get it

[Curlysue]

Originally Posted by oregoncalfroper

Some people have the idea that when a big corporation makes more they pay they're employees more....errrrrr false, corporate America looks to exploit the working class at every chance they get, they're only allegiance is to the shareholder.

“Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.” — Abraham Lincoln’s Message to Congress, Dec. 3, 1861.

But if they make less they will pay their employees more? I think you have a much better chance of getting a raise if you boss gets more money and a much better chance of a pay cut if he makes less, but that's just me. Look at those "evil" oil companies for instance. Everything was great when gas prices were high and they had money but now that they've dropped they are laying off employees left and right. Why? Because they have less money. But I'm sure Obama's tax plan will be the exception to this.

[Curlysue]

Originally Posted by mschn99

She didnt say the businesses were gonna make more thus paying thier employees more....

she said the businesses would make less.....thus cutting into thier profits....which will in turn cut the employees saleries by the same business greed you JUST DESCRIBED in the opposite way.......

Thanks Marc! You obviously understand common since.

[mschn99]

Originally Posted by Curlysue

But if they make less they will pay their employees more? I think you have a much better chance of getting a raise if you boss gets more money and a much better chance of a pay cut if he makes less, but that's just me. Look at those "evil" oil companies for instance. Everything was great when gas prices were high and they had money but now that they've dropped they are laying off employees left and right. Why? Because they have less money. But I'm sure Obama's tax plan will be the exception to this.

dont bring the oil companies up....they dont pay enought taxes.....

even though almost 40% of thier profits go back to the government.....

Yes....you read right.....when a company makes 10 billion dollars.....that means the government tookin 8 billion aditional dollars in tax revanue....

but then again the oil companies dont pay enough taxes and make too much profit.....

[mschn99]

Originally Posted by Curlysue

Thanks Marc! You obviously understand common since.

please read my post a couple posts up after Jon's.....LOL we will have to refrain from having common sence for the moment.