Obama

[choctaw]

Originally Posted by GM Duraturd

The members of the cabinet obviously share the same views and stratagies as the president because they are the ones advising him on their particular subject of expertise. So you are basically asking me if I really feel Bush was that bad... Yeah I do. (Im 17 so cant vote anyway but I stay very up on politics. I am majoring in Mech. Eng. with a minor in history/government. And to let you know I was a big Bush supporter in the Bush/Kerry election and now cant stand Bush. Hindsight is 20/20..... No, I do not wish Kerry won, I just dont like Bush now) Hopefully you could follow that.

OK, I will give you the fact that Bush has disappointed me as well. However I would like to hear the reasons for your diappointments. And I hope you are not really learning/absorbing the pablum your professors are spewing, hopefully you are taking what they have to say with a grain of salt.

[Barchetta]

Originally Posted by GM Duraturd

The members of the cabinet obviously share the same views and stratagies as the president because they are the ones advising him on their particular subject of expertise. So you are basically asking me if I really feel Bush was that bad... Yeah I do. (Im 17 so cant vote anyway but I stay very up on politics. I am majoring in Mech. Eng. with a minor in history/government. And to let you know I was a big Bush supporter in the Bush/Kerry election and now cant stand Bush. Hindsight is 20/20..... No, I do not wish Kerry won, I just dont like Bush now) Hopefully you could follow that.

Yeah, I followed that. I just don't understand your hindsight comment if you wish Kerry would not have won. It's either or. Am also to understand that you didn't have a problem with Bush until his second term?

BTW, you graduate high school early to already be in college at 17?

[Banshee34]

Originally Posted by cja7928

It really sucks, Multnomah county can trump the entire state. You watch the votes on just about any issue.. take gay rights for example, the entire state will vote one way and liberal Multnomah county will turn it the other way. I think we should put a fence up around portland along with S.F.

I totally agree, or at least give more votes to the other counties!

[GM Duraturd]

Originally Posted by choctaw

OK, I will give you the fact that Bush has disappointed me as well. However I would like to hear the reasons for your diappointments. And I hope you are not really learning/absorbing the pablum your professors are spewing, hopefully you are taking what they have to say with a grain of salt.

Well I havent talked to the professors yet, Im not entering college till next year, that was just to show you that I actually pay attention and aint just some 17 yr old kid who wants to stir up stuff on the internet. Im disappointed with Bush because I feel that the war put on by him and his people. I say this because I thik that 9/11 was staged, or atleast allowed by the Bush admin. for a reason to enter Iraq in hopes of gaining big oil money. The Iraqi democracy thing was to keep some support for the cause by making look like we are doing good for the people (which we are, but thats not Bush's main concern) Now I may catch alot of crap and have to do alot of explaining on the 9/11 inside job theory, but research it for yourself first. It truely is scary when you look deep into it. The Bush's have been planning for the attack for a long long time. Look it up please.

YouTube - 9/11 Coincidences (Part One) Theres about 20 parts, they get better as you go (1st few dont explain very much)

Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Prison Planet - 9/11 Prior Knowledge Archive (this is a good one)

there are many many more. Take it for what its worth, it could all be wrong but I feel there is enough evidence to show conspiracy for the wrong reasons.

[cja7928]

Originally Posted by Banshee34

I totally agree, or at least give more votes to the other counties!

I think this was kind of the idea behind the electoral college, that highly populated areas cant overrule the rest of rural america. Same thing on election night and you look at the map... blue on both coast lines and all red in the middle.

[Barchetta]

Originally Posted by GM Duraturd

Well I havent talked to the professors yet, Im not entering college till next year, that was just to show you that I actually pay attention and aint just some 17 yr old kid who wants to stir up stuff on the internet. Im disappointed with Bush because I feel that the war put on by him and his people. I say this because I thik that 9/11 was staged, or atleast allowed by the Bush admin. for a reason to enter Iraq in hopes of gaining big oil money. The Iraqi democracy thing was to keep some support for the cause by making look like we are doing good for the people (which we are, but thats not Bush's main concern) Now I may catch alot of crap and have to do alot of explaining on the 9/11 inside job theory, but research it for yourself first. It truely is scary when you look deep into it. The Bush's have been planning for the attack for a long long time. Look it up please.

YouTube - 9/11 Coincidences (Part One) Theres about 20 parts, they get better as you go (1st few dont explain very much)

Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Prison Planet - 9/11 Prior Knowledge Archive (this is a good one)

there are many many more. Take it for what its worth, it could all be wrong but I feel there is enough evidence to show conspiracy for the wrong reasons.

Son, you are off your rocker!

I don't have time to respond to this fully. I have to head to a meeting right now. As soon as I get back we will discuss this if it doesn't get locked by then.

Talk about conspiracy theory.

[drstephennix]

Originally Posted by GM Duraturd

Well I havent talked to the professors yet, Im not entering college till next year, that was just to show you that I actually pay attention and aint just some 17 yr old kid who wants to stir up stuff on the internet. Im disappointed with Bush because I feel that the war put on by him and his people. I say this because I thik that 9/11 was staged, or atleast allowed by the Bush admin. for a reason to enter Iraq in hopes of gaining big oil money. The Iraqi democracy thing was to keep some support for the cause by making look like we are doing good for the people (which we are, but thats not Bush's main concern) Now I may catch alot of crap and have to do alot of explaining on the 9/11 inside job theory, but research it for yourself first. It truely is scary when you look deep into it. The Bush's have been planning for the attack for a long long time. Look it up please.

YouTube - 9/11 Coincidences (Part One) Theres about 20 parts, they get better as you go (1st few dont explain very much)

Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Prison Planet - 9/11 Prior Knowledge Archive (this is a good one)

there are many many more. Take it for what its worth, it could all be wrong but I feel there is enough evidence to show conspiracy for the wrong reasons.

I was reading some of the last link you posted. I didnt find one story that had any evidence that it was true or even published. they would just say "Newsweek, Sunday" without giving the volume or the article or anyting else to see if it was actually true. maybe I missed it all.

On the other hand, if it were true, it goes to show why torture works so well. If we could have used water boarding when we had them in custody and questioning them, I'm sure we could have got some useful information from them.

[Banshee34]

Hey GM, I only have two responses for you....

#1 Urban Legends Reference Pages

#2 do your own REAL research, not listen to someone elses propaganda.

[Diesel Monkey]

""I know I am preaching to the choir here for the most part, but after listening to the media coverage of obama I have to vent.

For me he has gone from being an irritating liberal to a very scary man. I base this on the fact that he (obama) said Paraphrasing please feel free to look it up:
"Given the option to to do it over I would still vote against the troop surge."

and

"I didn't think the Sunnis and ****es would work out the way they did, inconjunction with how the troop surge worked."""

Gosh, I bet we just bribed the Sunnis to sit out till past the elections, and if you remember, when we focused on a hotspot in VietNam, The NV would go down a hole and pop up somewhere else, you think this is not happening in Iraq?

Bribery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are lessons forgotten from American Literature, like Brer Rabbit,
Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby

Br'er Rabbit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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[drstephennix]

Originally Posted by GM Duraturd

YouTube - 9/11 Coincidences (Part One) Theres about 20 parts, they get better as you go (1st few dont explain very much)

Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Prison Planet - 9/11 Prior Knowledge Archive (this is a good one)

there are many many more. Take it for what its worth, it could all be wrong but I feel there is enough evidence to show conspiracy for the wrong reasons.

I just watched the first link. Silly, silly, silly hopefully you dont believe everything you see or hear

im not even gonna bother looking at the second one