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Old 03-19-2008, 08:50 AM
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Socialism at it's best

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socialism at it's worst

A bit overwhelming!



WHAT COSTS MORE PER YEAR THAN THE IRAQ WAR

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over an d over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts:

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. FAIR: : Immigration and Welfare

2. $2 .2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http:// Center for Immigration Studies

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. Center for Immigration Studies

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and sec ondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. CNN.com - Transcripts

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. h ttp://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal ali ens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/l dt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. CNN.com - Transcripts

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rat e that's two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge add itional crime problem in the US . CNN.com - Transcripts

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.' http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...eportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. Wooldridge - How Much Further Into This Nightmare?

14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States '. http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml< BR>
Total cost is a whooping... $338.3 BILLION A YEAR!!!

If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message, bu t on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, then forward it.


Social Security Change For 2008

The United States Senate voted to extend Social Security Benefits to Illegal Aliens beginning in 2008. The following are the senators who voted to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits. They are g rouped by home state. If a state is not listed, there was no voting representative.

Alaska : Stevens (R)

Arizona : McCain (R)

Arkansas : Lincoln (D) Pryor (D)

California : Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)

Colorado : Salazar (D)

Connecticut : Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)

Delaware : Biden (D) Carper (D)

Florida : Martinez (R)

Hawaii : Akaka (D) Inouye (D)

Illinois : Durbin (D) Obama (D)

Indiana : Bayh (D) Lugar (R)

Iowa : Harkin (D)< /FONT>

Kansas : Brownback (R)
Louisiana : Landrieu (D)

Maryland : Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D)

Massachusetts : Kennedy (D) Kerry (D)

Montana : Baucus (D)

Nebraska : Hag el (R)

Nevada : Reid (D)

New J ersey : Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)

New Mexico : Bingaman (D)

New York : Clinton (D) Schumer (D)

North Dakota : Dorgan (D)

Ohio : DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)

Oregon : Wyden (D)

Pennsylvania : Specter (R)

Rhode Island : Chafee (R) Reed (D)

South Carolina : Graham (R)

South Dakota : Johnson (D)

Vermont : Jeffords (I) Leahy (D)

Washington : Cantwell (D) Murray (D)

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Not saying I totally disagree, but as an Vet, all that is not worth one of my brothers lives. And that is a stupid war, almost everyone in the military thinks so, fun, but stupid
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Interesting post yet I'd never say "Socialism at it's best". Maybe "Socialism, at it's worst".
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Not saying I totally disagree, but as an Vet, all that is not worth one of my brothers lives. And that is a stupid war, almost everyone in the military thinks so, fun, but stupid
The concern is not the war, but Illeagel Aleins.
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socialism at it's worst

A bit overwhelming!



WHAT COSTS MORE PER YEAR THAN THE IRAQ WAR
I got that, that was pretty obvious, my point is that the cost of that war in Iraq is not something that can be measured in dollars and cents. I am not crazy about the alien problem, but I have served in the Infantry in Iraq and I kind of resent the comparison of the 6 billion a day spent in Iraq and 7000 young american lives lost, not to mention the countless non militant civilian casualties (not all Iraqis are terrorist no matter what they tell you, some are just normal decent people, kind of like illegal aliens come to think of it) to the fact that our goverment wont do anything to stop this from happening. My opinion is that the really rich benefit from the cheap labor, benefit from 4.20 a gallon diesel on and on... insert something that is wrong with our country there. I am not hating on you or disagreeing my friend, I hope you dony see this as that, I dont mean it that way. The politicians keep things the way that keeps them rich and in power. Criminals in my opinion.
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I got that, that was pretty obvious, my point is that the cost of that war in Iraq is not something that can be measured in dollars and cents. I am not crazy about the alien problem, but I have served in the Infantry in Iraq and I kind of resent the comparison of the 6 billion a day spent in Iraq and 7000 young american lives lost, not to mention the countless non militant civilian casualties (not all Iraqis are terrorist no matter what they tell you, some are just normal decent people, kind of like illegal aliens come to think of it) to the fact that our goverment wont do anything to stop this from happening. My opinion is that the really rich benefit from the cheap labor, benefit from 4.20 a gallon diesel on and on... insert something that is wrong with our country there. I am not hating on you or disagreeing my friend, I hope you dony see this as that, I dont mean it that way. The politicians keep things the way that keeps them rich and in power. Criminals in my opinion.

I agree with you, on everything you just said.

I was set off because I can not go to the grocery store at 6 in the morning because I speak english. Today in a meeting I was asked to learn spanish. I am not okay with that. I feel that this is why I can not go to the store to early. I feel this is why I have to learn something I have no desire to. I don't know what to do about it. I don't understand why I have seen pics of the U.S. flag upside down and under the mexican flag on U.S. soil. Now I am not racist but I have an issue with all of this. I understand all of us came here from somewhere. But why come here then turn the flag upside down? My kids will not go to public school because english is second. I have to vote with issue.

I understand this subject may step on some toes but I am okay with that. My toes are being stepped on.

My brother fought in this war he is BUDS recon, my uncle is retired naval officer. I am not disrepecting any of the military out there if anything this is supporting .
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Here's an interesting take on the illegal allien problem






George Carlin's Solution to Save Gasoline

Bush wants us to cut the amount of gas we use..... The best way to stop using so much gas is to deport 11 million illegal immigrants!

That would be 11 million less people using our gas. The price of gas would come down.....

Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the Border....

When they catch an illegal immigrant crossing the border, hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Iraq .

Tell him if he wants to come to America then he must serve a tour in the military.... .

Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it.....

After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he defended this country..... .

He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal patriot..... .

This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves.. ....

If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo.....

Problem solved.....
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Here's an interesting take on the illegal allien problem






George Carlin's Solution to Save Gasoline

Bush wants us to cut the amount of gas we use..... The best way to stop using so much gas is to deport 11 million illegal immigrants!

That would be 11 million less people using our gas. The price of gas would come down.....

Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the Border....

When they catch an illegal immigrant crossing the border, hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Iraq .

Tell him if he wants to come to America then he must serve a tour in the military.... .

Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it.....

After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he defended this country..... .

He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal patriot..... .

This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves.. ....

If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo.....

Problem solved.....

I like it
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I hear you on that! Try going to Wally World! If you could get someone to help you then you had better be able to speak something other than good english. I didnt think you meant it as racism. Just my two cents, and I agree with you too!!
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I hear you on that! Try going to Wally World! If you could get someone to help you then you had better be able to speak something other than good english. I didnt think you meant it as racism. Just my two cents, and I agree with you too!!
I have tried and I will not go there. I have alot of friends that just refuse.
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