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Old 01-29-2008, 11:20 AM
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A little Tax 101

Since we are being all political today. Enjoy the read.

Best explanation to share with your congressman, who clearly does not understand this complex principle.

Our Tax System Explained: Bar Stool Economics
Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.

The fifth would pay $1.

The sixth would pay $3.

The seventh would pay $7.

The eighth would pay $12.

The ninth would pay $18.

The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20." Drinks for the ten now cost just $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the 20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?' They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).


Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20 declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, "but he got $10!" "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!" "That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!" "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!" The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, ladies and gentlemen, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.



David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.

Professor of Economics

University of Georgia



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Old 01-29-2008, 11:23 AM
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That is awesome.
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:26 AM
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ha ha. no explanation needed here!
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:29 AM
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This is sooooo true.
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:01 PM
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Nothing like a real world example to illustrate things clearly. Good post Paul!
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:07 PM
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good one! LOL
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:14 PM
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Great post. I have a copy of that example in my desk drawer. I am a CPA and couldn't agree more. I just sit back and bite my tongue when people moan about taxes/rich getting all the breaks because I see day in and day out how things work. And you couldn't have said it better - For those that don't understand - no explanation is possible. I quit trying to explain years ago.
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:18 PM
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That's awesome, and in PLAIN english too. Next time I hear "The rich get all the benefits" I can show them this...

It's not quite that simple as their are write off and loop holes to get the tax down some for the rich, but they still get the shaft.
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:53 PM
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great post
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Old 01-29-2008, 02:19 PM
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Ok, I get it, the rich guy's taxes pay for the poor guy's benefits. What about me? I'm lower middle class and I don't get any government assistance, nor do I want it. Am I supposed to lobby for a tax cut for the rich guy? I look out for number one and number one only when it comes to my tax dollars.
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