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Old 12-13-2011, 04:53 PM
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After seeing and hearing..Newt & Mitt are OUT!

I'm done with these two...unless one is up against Odumbo,but won't be happy about it.

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Old 12-13-2011, 06:44 PM
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eh can't really listen to it now. mitt sucks i been saying this the whole time. they can't come up with someone better? newt says things about amnesty, and blah blah blah blah. like you, and i have talked about before greg i don't trust anyone on either side about illegal immigration. pat buchannan was the last who had a hard stance on it. everyone is a RINO when it comes to immigration just like foreign aid. they say they're doing something about it, but it's just lip service. as we've seen with perry, and all those supposed gop conservatives like colin powell, and the gop woman who employed an illegal alien housekeeper. i just take it all with a grain of salt. i still stand against it, but it's one thing you can't trust the politicians to do anything about it. it's all about the vote. even legal hispanics. i think if they took the approach, and i know it sounds soft, but a more pc approach to it, and talk about illegal immigrants for EVERYWHERE they might be able to still attract the legal hispanics votes. hate to say pc, but if we're gonna crack down on illegals, and not use the ''we need the hispanic vote'' bs then i think that's the best solution.


sadly though it's gotta come down to these two. perry is a bumbling, stuttering idiot i think.

bachmann i don't know. i don't see her having a chance though i really don't.

ron paul whether you like him or not it doesn't matter. he's too old which turned a lot of people off of john mccain. mccain sucked anyway, but they used his age against him. the guy was early 70s. ron paul would be 78 when he took office if he won. i think he is a very noble stand up guy, but i'm afraid of his foreign policy ''be friends with iran'' stuff, and he's another one of the ''let's not build a fence'' people.

santorum. who? what? i don't know a lot about this guy personally, and i doubt many others pay much attention to him.

huntsmann another who? this guy is an even bigger who? he doesn't even make all of the debates! the guy is even worse than romney anyway.

cain had the best chance. newt is out next. waiting for a sh!tstorm to come down on him next like with cain. it won't happen with romney. the left wants romney.
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Mit Romney is just a Republican (And slightly whiter) Obama. Newt is a moron, and the media will tear him up due to his history if he gets the nod.

I am voting for Ron Paul. I don't care any more. I'm not going to vote for "bad" or "worse" because they have the best chance of being elected and getting "the nod."
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:44 PM
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I have to give the nod to Ron Paul, since he is the ONLY true, smaller-government candidate in the race. He has always been consistently strong in civil liberties and constitutional rights; unlike every other candidate. That being said, I hate his foreign policy....or lack thereof.

Newt? Enough baggage (both personal and political) to open a Samsonite store.

Bachmann? Smokin' hot and very sharp; but teeters on the edge of being a theocratic nut job.

Huntsman? Who?

Romney? Just a slightly whiter Obama; also known as Obomney in some circles.

Perry? He makes Joe Biden look smart; and has that "amnesty" baggage dragging behind him and his campaign.

Santorum? Another Puritannical nut job who'd likely seek to switch us from the welfare state to the nanny state. Bad idea!

2012 is going to be another "hold your nose" election year in the USA. If the GOP doesn't get their heads out of their arses, we will have Obama in the White House until 2017. Now that is downright scary!
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Ron Paul is the ONLY one who would actually Turn the country around anyone else would just continue down the path Obummer started just use smoke and mirrors to make us think that they are conservative
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Yeah,Ron Paul has a lot of good ideas,but this is what worries me about him...

I know it's still early,and a lot can change,and his polls have been steady,but I heard that if he doesn't get the GOP nomination,he may run as an independent,like Trump has mentioned.

If that case should happen,there may as well not even be a vote,because it's a shoe-in for Odumbo...the GOP vote will be split and we'll have 4 more years of hell

I don't know how many are old enough to remember....but H. Ross Perot did the exact thing with Bush sr.-thus cursing us with Clinton

If all the candidates really care...losers will step aside so Odumbo will lose-and BIG!

We just need to beat the muslim...then move on from there....any one of them is better than him..and that ain't sayin' much!
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When I went to see Ron Paul speak a few weeks ago, he said he would NOT run as a 3rd part candidate but that's not going to stop his hardcore supporters from writing him in or not voting at all
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I'll tell ya what, if the repubs don't get things straight pretty dam quick there's no way they're gonna have a fighting chance in November. Someone better step up as the "leader" of the party and make it happen or we're all screwed.
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haha perot in 92. liberals say the same about nader against bush/gore and bush/kerry haha.

speaking of george bush sr his no new taxes bs alienated many of his supporters. one big lie messed it up for him. obama has about 15 huge lies that should alienate pretty much all of his support from both sides. i didn't like clinton, but i myself was also fuming over bush sr's blatant lie. clinton seems pretty good next to obama though. at least he was able to lean a little bit. for what it's worth i liked perot better than both clinton, and bush. didn't vote for him. don't think i did vote in 92.


say what you want about gingrich now. i am split on him myself. i like him better than romney, but not as much as cain or ron paul. gingrich was much better leader than this guy mr boner they have in there now. his time as speaker of the house he didn't cave to the dems like boner does. then again though clinton was easier to lean than obama who thinks he can bypass congress.
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It's still early in the game and a lot can change,bottom line,I'm voting for who ever is up against O'commi!

If an independent runs...we're screwed....

Liberals are at the peak of their revolution...we have to unite and vote as whole,even if the nominee isn't who we want,and get this jackass out of office before another civil war is started....tensions are high in the country...a true conservative would be nice-but we have to do the best we can.../

An independent runner will be our end!

If an independent runs....get ready for TOTAL socialism!

The American dream will be DEAD!!!
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