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post #1 of 33 Old 03-02-2011, 07:39 AM Thread Starter
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Funeral protests can continue

Can you believe this crap? The supreme court ruled that these damn protesters can continue to torture the families of our soldiers killed in war.


1st Amendment protects military funeral protesters - Yahoo! News

I'd love to see enough people get pi$$ed about this and go to one of the protests and find a way to keep these idiots from getting anywhere within a mile or so of the funerals.
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Check out the Patriot Guard Riders (PGR). Its an extremely large group of bikers from all over the U.S. that go to the funerals of servicemen and women to stand guard over the family, and not allow the squirrels to get too close.

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First, let me say, in a case of a funeral (military or not), I disagree with the ruling. Protesting a funeral, especially a funeral of a fallen military personnel, who fought to protect their rights, is tacky, a low-life tactic and, IMO, morally wrong. As a person of faith, I honestly don't see how this "Church" can look themselves in the mirror. What are they going to do if one of them passes and a bunch of people show up to protest?

OTOH, in the larger picture, I understand why the Justices ruled the way they did. We DO have freedom of speech and it should be protected even if we don't like what is said. If everyone tried to silence those who said stuff others didn't like....well....I guess you get the picture. At some point in time, we wouldn't have freedom of speech and anything we said would be subject to litigation or censure.


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First, let me say, in a case of a funeral (military or not), I disagree with the ruling. Protesting a funeral, especially a funeral of a fallen military personnel, who fought to protect their rights, is tacky, a low-life tactic and, IMO, morally wrong. As a person of faith, I honestly don't see how this "Church" can look themselves in the mirror. What are they going to do if one of them passes and a bunch of people show up to protest?

OTOH, in the larger picture, I understand why the Justices ruled the way they did. We DO have freedom of speech and it should be protected even if we don't like what is said. If everyone tried to silence those who said stuff others didn't like....well....I guess you get the picture. At some point in time, we wouldn't have freedom of speech and anything we said would be subject to litigation or censure.
I disagree with your last part. I firmly believe in freedom of speech when used to voice a different opinion or argue a point or show a belief. But when it's used for NOTHING but causing mental anguish to someone, it's gone too far. These people are doing nothing but disrupting a funeral and making families suffer. They're not voicing an opinion, they're just making false claims.
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I fully agree with what you said. That's why I started my post with my disagreement with the ruling.

My second part is based on the current laws. I mentioned understand it - I don't always agree with it, nor will I. Freedom of Speech is a broad brush. Sadly, with our current laws, there is no differentiation between disagreement of opinion and 'causing mental anguish to someone' or 'making false claims.'


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And I agree with what you said, especially "Freedom of Speech is a broad brush". I just wish there was a fix for it.
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They had to rule that way because of the 1st amendment.

However they did leave the door open for states to set distances from funerals that the protesters had to remain away

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They have freedom of speech, but NOT a right to be heard. There is a subtle difference.

That being said, I have to agree with the ruling by the SCOTUS.....even though I find the Westboro Baptist Church to be a bunch of sickos who are a total waste of oxygen. Unfortunately, part of living in a free society often involves having to put up with people or ideas that we find revolting, disgusting and offensive.


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I can not stand Westboro Baptist whatever they are. I cant bring myself to call them a church. For them to protest a soldiers funeral is beyond anything I can comprehend. But that being said the 1st amendment does give people the right to free speech even if the majority of people find it to be offensive and deplorable. I think the Supreme Court got the ruling right. That is the price that people pay for living in a free country sometimes we have to deal with the wack jobs of the world. I have praticipated in numerous rides with the PGR and we did have a funeral in AR where there was a run in with the Westboro group and I dont think they liked the results.
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I'm extremely disappointing in the behavior of these people of the so called "church" If they feel that strongly against what America stands for, then they should GET THE "f" out. Go to another country like IRAQ, then see how well the hatred they spout flies over their. I hope the karma train is on the way.
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