Is it worth their life????

[SAR Pirate]

Originally Posted by BDJack

Sometimes my benevolent side is crushed under my practical, completely un sympathetic side when I remember a story told to me by someone close. Long story short, my buddy was very far into a place we never were, doing things we never did, and was under orders to keep a certain Hussein under thumb. The shoot order never came, for obvious reasons, but if it had, think of the heartache we could have saved ourselves.

Lesson: Sometimes it is easier to shoot them.

These are different circumstances with civilians we are sworn to protect, but if I thought they were endangering me, or someone else, or hell, if they tried to jump in front of my truck, im sure the brakes would fail, randomly.

Jack, we all have those sides man. I have a side that says the chit I'm saying now, and the side that would shoot your *** and go have a beer while I'm waiting for the cops to show up. It all depends on the situation I'm in. It's not necessarily a bad thing

In you're friends case, he was doing what he was sworn to do and was following orders

I'm not sure we'd have saved any grief and/or heartache by taking him out It may have made things worse. You never really know man.

I don't know your're friend, but it sounds like we may have known some of the same types

These are different circumstances with civilians we are sworn to protect, but if I thought they were endangering me, or someone else...

Exactly my point brother.

Although the military isn't really sworn to protect the civilians, it's a good idea when dealing with stateside matters, to approach it that way

Oath of Enlistment (re-Enlistment):

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God

I agree wholeheartedly with your statment regarding endangerment. If a life is at risk, then civilians or not, you can't let that happen.

or hell, if they tried to jump in front of my truck, im sure the brakes would fail, randomly

You know...I heard the brakes on these things are a bit unreliable.....

[SAR Pirate]

Originally Posted by navyeoseabee

yep, that is a comment from either a tree hugger that uses paper products! or a person that would not be on the front line when your military brother needs you the most.... yep you guessed it i said you dropped your gun and ran!



yep, and if they had explosives on them the poor 80year old would have killed many and served a cause (in their mind)

but atleast you would have gave them a chance to do WHAT ever they CUT the FENCE, ignored the signs, and still continued tried to do. -your a nice guy! OH' WAIT that would be fine with you if they did carry them out!

yep, that proved that you are a fallower to believe that!

so you went from active duty to the flip side... maybe you should spell out the details rather that ASSuming we know your DUTY TO COUNTRY! wouldn't want it to be confused or misunderstood for cowardism.

i wish these jackass would come to town again....thing time i am off duty, i think the cops hualed away 4-5 active duty and/or reserves...all before a fight... but still azzez !
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navy, you're letting this knucklehead rattle you and it shows man.

Chill.

Name calling and such has no place in a debate...unless you're Ron White

(got thrown off the debate team when he said "well f**k you!" to the other team. They were speechless. He thought he had won..)

[Robsr]

Wow, good stuff

[Speedyboy487]

Originally Posted by shakc

BEING CALLED A COWARD BY THE NAVY, THATS A GOOD ONE, THANKS FOR THE LAUGH

So tell us what you have done for your country. Im really wondering now that you are calling military members out(the entire navy). If you want a lesson on what the navy does pm me and Ill fill you in.

Wait, I get it, you couldnt score high enough on the ASVAB so your mad at the navy for not letting you in.

[SAR Pirate]

Originally Posted by Speedyboy487

So tell us what you have done for your country. Im really wondering now that you are calling military members out(the entire navy). If you want a lesson on what the navy does pm me and Ill fill you in.

Wait, I get it, you couldnt score high enough on the ASVAB so your mad at the navy for not letting you in.

I'm not sure, but from the looks of things, he's not going to be answering you...at least not here

shakc
Banned

[westcoaststrokin]

Originally Posted by shakc

BEING CALLED A COWARD BY THE NAVY, THATS A GOOD ONE, THANKS FOR THE LAUGH

Any time you feel like locking yourself in a sewer tube for months at a time let me know. If you can do that feel free to call me a coward.

Originally Posted by Dave

This will serve as a warning to everyone. If you want to insult/threaten or otherwise demean an active or otherwise military member of this site you wont be around long.

Good riddance shakc

Thanks for the back up Dave. I just wish I would have had a chance to respond.

[SAR Pirate]

Originally Posted by westcoaststrokin

Any time you feel like locking yourself in a sewer tube for months at a time let me know...

Never heard it refered to like that before

(BTW-You can keep that chit! I'll stay topside )

[westcoaststrokin]

Originally Posted by SAR Pirate

(BTW-You can keep that chit! I'll stay topside )

Yeah I hear that a lot.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by westcoaststrokin

Any time you feel like locking yourself in a sewer tube for months at a time let me know. If you can do that feel free to call me a coward.




Thanks for the back up Dave. I just wish I would have had a chance to respond.

Josh I wanted you to be the one to nail him. But his comment just fuggin pissed me off. And those of you that know me well know that takes alot to do

[westcoaststrokin]

Originally Posted by Dave

Josh I wanted you to be the one to nail him. But his comment just fuggin pissed me off. And those of you that know me well know that takes alot to do

Yeah I know it takes a lot. No problem I have his email addy. I can respond at my leisure.