What's In It For The Working Guy?

[TexasR.N.]

Originally Posted by kinghawg98

I still do not understand this.

It is not the job of either side to offer you anything except ability to succeed. Thats it.

I agree with this.

Originally Posted by monoloco

It's the job of both sides to offer us honest governance. They should be working in the interests of everyone not just their campaign contributors.

Yup.

Craig

[kinghawg98]

Originally Posted by monoloco

It's the job of both sides to offer us honest governance. They should be working in the interests of everyone not just their campaign contributors.

Well, I halfway agree.

They should not be working for interests of anyone except the constitution. The fed has been given limited powers as stated in our Founding Document.

The Constitution has been bastardized lately.

Certainly nowhere does anything exist in the Constitution about health care for "everyone" (including illegals and heck, probably Canadians, Frenchies, maybe even Serbs!) Nowhere does it say there is such a thing as a company too big to fail. They (the current congress/senate/president) are going outside of interests of everyone- BTW- Who determines said interests!? Right now, its not the people-recent polling proves this, the majority of people are against healthcare for all..its the special interests. A problem.

Its gotta stop- I cannot imagine how anyone can say "I'd like to pay your healthcare bill you 800 lb sloth of a human" I cannot imagine anyone say "Sure! I'd love to pay for your emphysema bill because you chose to smoke 3 packs a day for 30 yrs" or "Hell yea! You were riding your motorcycle drunk without a helmet, let me pony up your healthcare bill" I could go on...

[monoloco]

These imbeciles have not been following the constitution for a long time. Since the 70's they have bailed out Panama, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, China, Eastern Europe, and Russia. These really weren't country bailouts but bailouts for U.S. and international banks who had made risky loans. The IMF and the World Bank using funds created out of nothing by the Federal Reserve, stepped in and bailed out these countries so they could keep making their interest payments to the banks who made these risky loans which weren't really risky loans because they knew that they would be bailed out. This was paid for by every American taxpayer by a hidden tax called inflation. One more example of privatized profits and socialized risk. Every administration, Republican and Democrat have been guilty of this looting of the taxpayer. Welcome to the New World Order.

[PJSaleen]

Hmm..hmm..hmm..ok..I just know I am asking for a can of whoop *** being dumped on me by alot of people but here goes. We are in the 21st century and unions do nothing but at the very least bread generations of mediocraty and dependence. That was the kind fuzzy side of them..the other sides are horrific! Never in the history of the world has there been such an over the top ultra left wing and secular "organization" as a union. I know, I know..many of you..a great many of you will tout the historic significance..that is not lost on me..so what? Skip to today and the impact that unions have had on Canada and the United States alone! Unions keep the little guy down folks they don't "look out for you" or "protect your rights" and "ability to obtain a fair wage" they do just the opposit. Here is just one example, I hear, and rightly so..so very many of your complaing about the current administrations attacking your "rights and freedoms and free market capitalism" what do you think unions do? They do exactly that and so very much more al while screaming that "they" have the moral high ground that "they" are for the much vaunted "little guy" palease give me a break! Nothing could be farther from the truth. You Americans, my friends, until now have lived in arguably the last bastion of capitalism on the planet, the land of milk and honey, the land of opportunity..why..because if you work hard, invest..blah, blah, blah..anything truly is possible!
I am of the firm belief that 90% of second generation Americans should indeed be financially sound by now given the limitless opportunities of being born and living in America would have afforded all of you. If they have not then you should take a very long look in the proverbial mirror and blame only yourselves and the choices you have or have not made in your own lives thus far. I know that sounds harsh..too bad..what are your alternatives, full blown socialism/communism and a lefty slacker lifestyle. Being a blue collar worker, unless your a business owner taking the risk etc., will never give you financial "freedom." Investing so as to allow for "unearned streams of income" will however. Ask yourself, who does not want "me" to be in a union, who wants me to be dependent on them, who want me to "take care of" them? Anyone, especially a government or "organization" that what to exact a pound of flesh out of you without representation, compensation keeps you at your status quo is not your "friend." I, at times, have worked very hard in my life, very hard indeed..sadly effort does not always reflect compensation but that is life. There are thousands of books and methods being peddaled on how to get rich..its really very simple but less than .5% of people actually do it! Heck, if a dumb guy like me with a couple of bucks in my pocket can do it..anyone can my friends but I am here to tell you know that unions or working for anyone else is not the answer that will just give you a level of cash flow..enough for many just to hang themselves finacially!
So in closing this long winded fiasco..unions plain and simple suck! Don't be a sheep.

[2006PSDSD]

We've had this discussion before here, and MOST of the members are against unions. Unions protect the lazy arse workers, and give them a sense of entitlement for a job halfway done, if it gets done at all

So yes

unions plain and simple suck! Don't be a sheep

[kingchip]

The underlying problem is also that while carrying the lazy employee, the good hands are held back. More socialism at it's best.